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August 23, 2011
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Thanks. If you take away the bugs on the Tritons (500 being the highest I had) I really liked it. Hubby was always frustrated with it.
Now to find a version of VP that works on my computer AND eX 510. Magellan still tells me there is no way to get older versions. I did see them on Jungle Ghost, but still need to find out the computer requirememts.
I just wiped out all traces of Magellan and VP to start with a clean slate when new unit arrives. Bummer I won't have it for upcomming weekend trip. 🙁

August 23, 2011
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Although I still think of the Triton as a good GPS the eX-Series far exceeds it. I've used a couple of the high end Garmins and I'll put my eX710 up against one any day.

So yes, the eX-Series is a far superior unit over the Tritons.

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August 22, 2011
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Thanks David. I will look at the link site.
Did you mean that eX is better than Triton or that Triton is better than eX?
The problem with VP started with an "upgrade firmware" rather than with the maps I had been using...not necessarily pure data, but all I have to go on.
I will try also deleting my maps and seeing if the newest vp works BUT, it was the Magellan folks that said it was my computer...
I LOVED the non magellan maps for Europe geocaching, not to mention knowing where we were and how to get where we wanted.

August 22, 2011
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If you scroll down on this site:

JungleGhost.com

You can download any version of VP you want.

As far as the eX-Seris of GPSrs they cannot even be compared to the Triton Series, except for their accuracy.

I too have had 10+ Magellan GPSrs and I still have most of them and I too went through the Triton issues; however, I can say that with the later firmware versions the main problems with the unit (lock ups) were caused by HTML in the Cache Descriptions, which can be removed with an HTML stripping program such at the Triton Macro.

Going back to the eX-Series, as of today I've logged a little over 2,200 cache finds with them - a GC, 310, 610 & 710 and I have had very few problems with these units. The biggest problem that I've seen lately is electronic compass swing in the 710 that has shown up in the last couple of firmware releases; however, I also know that this is a high priority for Magellan to fix.

As far as VP I have and continue to have very, very few problems with it and all of the issues that I have had with it were almost always caused by custom (non-Magellan) maps,which Magellan can't be held accountable for...

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August 22, 2011
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Hello.
I am new to this group but have found some really great info. since stumbling onto it. I have had years of problems with magellan, mostly the same issues. I would like to throw them out for comment.

I have had about 10 Magellan triton units. Purchased a 200 and have had several of each grade as replacements the last several have been 500's. (A consistent freezing problem that is not solved with removing batteries). This last unit froze the day I got it.
Magellan has offered to send me a explorist 510 this time. I said I needed to research them first. It appears they also have a freeze up problem. Input?

Another issue, that is more relative to this thread is VPoint. I have used it issue free for a few years. I had purchased maps from an outside source (for europe geocaching and they were great) and store them and geocaches there. Not much else. If I had purchased magellan maps I would have been really livid at this new complication.
A few mos ago I was given a message to upgrade vp, so I did. It hasn't worked since. I called Magellan (Have gotten familiar with some of the techs) and the explanation is that the upgrade requires 128 mb ram memory. The old program required 64. Because I have an older computer I cannot use vp anymore. They have told me that there is no way to get the older version. I thought that was bad planning. Most programs have a way to get the older versions if they are preferred.
SO...does anyone have a way or link to get the older VP?
I tried a link on this site, but the download still put in the new version.

I am wary of trying the explorist and learning a new system but it really can't be worse than the Tritons, can they?

Aside from years of phone tech help, trips to fedex, hikes ruined, vacations ruined (by freezeups), the incredible bad luck of always having units die on me, I still enjoy geocaching, when I have a working unit.
I have told them they should make me a beta tester. 😉

Really...How can I have so many units that all die from the same problem?
Thanks for being patient with this multi thread monologue.
rrc

August 8, 2011
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Well, looks like the new version "may" have corrected the bugs. I may be speaking (typing) too soon but thus far I've NOT experienced any "vantagepoint has stopped responding" errors. I did have an initial issue with the install/update was an easy fix with some manual uninstalling. I've also updated to the newest firmware 6.0x for my x710. Suppose I should have tried to see if one or the other fixed it first but decided to jump feet first into the updates and did them both at the same time. Gotta say, the new version of VP is IMPRESSIVE! Speed, top down images (just recently been using MOBAC and was "ok" but not yet tried digital download subs'n yet...prolly will end up in long run).

June 19, 2011
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VP works great if you don't use it to for sending geocaches to or from the GPS units.
The waypoint and geocache file system is clumsy at best.

When I use VP just for tracks, routes and maps I have no problems with it.

When I send waypoints or geocaches to or from VP to a GPS unit VP will crash or not send the files.

GSAK is the best way to load cache files the GPS units.

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June 19, 2011
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Ok, so I'm back after a bout of caching burnout recently. I'm going to try and help figure out this vp crashing issue. As most have stated before, deletion of the USER1 directory seems to correct the issue. Upon the next crash I'll start deleting files one at a time and hopefully get somewhere with this. Sorry for being gone for so long but with these problems (in a GREAT software program BTW, love the features) and getting burnt out by finding so many in such a short period of time I suppose it was inevitable.

I've updated both my eXplorist GC (to 1.6 software) and my eXplorist 710 to the new 5.93 software so we'll see if that helps any as well. The latter has introduced the same problem discussed in another topic of "next nearest cache" error so won't go into that here.

April 13, 2011
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I've also been able to recover from constant crashes by deleting the My Documents/VantagePoint directory.

On another occasion, VP would crash every time the 610 was connected. Deleted the log file from the 610's geocache directory and that resolved that problem. I did look at the log's contents prior to deleting and it looked like VP didn't successfully delete the file the previous time the field notes were uploaded to gc.com.

My VP crashes didn't start happening until I started saving tracks. When I would rename them in VP and forget to delete them on the 610, it would crash every time I tried to sync (even excluding tracks) or attempting to delete the tracks in VP.

My speculation: It seems that VP's database is becoming corrupted and the error handling isn't capable of correcting the condition.

For the time being, I'm just not using tracks and only using VP for GC transfers. I'll use GSAK for my really narrow searches but the basic pocket queries fill most of my needs.

VP v2.04 W7 32-bit SP1 610 w/v3.22

April 4, 2011
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Well I did a test and just deleted the "My Documents/Vantage Point" folder and VP started working again... lost all my maps and such but it is a lot easier then removing, deleting all remaining folders, then reinstalling.

Next time I will try breaking it into sub-folders and files.

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April 3, 2011
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jmebd

Send me your Email address so I can forward a couple of Emails to you so we can see if they might help.

Later,
David


 

 

 

April 3, 2011
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Absolutely strange behavior.
I don't have any issue you describe.
I'm using XP SP3 with VP2.04 and it goes without any problem.

April 3, 2011
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RE: Copy maps to HD and install that way:

Have tried that in the past but you still have to connect your handheld to "authorize" the map.

RE: Newest video drivers:

Like I posted before....I'm not using an antiquated pc. It's a quad core Q6600 w/4GB 1066 DDR running windows 7, 2 1TB SATA-II in RAID, 2 geforce 8800 GTS in SLI that I've tried both the WHQL drivers 266.58 dated January 18th 2011 and the newest BETA drivers (now using) 270.51 dated March 30th 2011. Don't think you can get much more recent than that.

It's gotten so bad now that I've had to revert back to VP 2.0. So far I have been able to utilize 2.0 for a couple days without incident.

Perhaps if magellan would program in a debug log into the software that we could turn on it would pinpoint the exact instance of what is being accessed at the time. Would be of great help!

April 3, 2011
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Before you do ANYTHING else, try this, it worked for me....

Go to Start - Control Panel - System - Device Manager - then find your Display Adapter, Properties - then find the manufacturer and model number.

Go to that mfgr's website, search for the most recent driver update for that adapter, and if it's newer than the date of your current driver, install it, then restart the computer.

THEN install VP again. It fixed my laptop from shutting down when looking at any maps, and I NEVER uninstalled VP, just kept using the same one that was there.

Take a chance.

Denis Gionet, OGA Executive Member - Northern Ontario.

April 3, 2011
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Try copying your maps to your computer and then load to VP from the computer?

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April 2, 2011
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Well, here is an interesting problem I've ran into today. It crashed on me today after just looking around the maps for a while and decided to remove a couple caches that I had done. Right clicked on a cache and selected delete and it crashed. Vantagepoint has stopped responding bla bla bla... So, I tried to do the usual full uninstall/reinstall (hadn't taken the opportunity to make a copy of the working folder yet but will). Upon reinstall of the program I tried to import the maps from my 710 like normal and it crashed as soon as it finished...hmm..so I tried another time...crashed again... then I tried one of the other maps...crash....hmm...WTH?! Gonna do a restart of the pc and another full uninstall reinstall and see what happens...this is getting OLD quickly

April 1, 2011
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I tend to leave the cache files on the 710 for a couple of weeks.
New caches I load to the 710 straight from GC.com.
When I use GSAK to load the 710 I have no problems, so I use GSAK to massage my PQs before loading the 710 and load VP with the PQs from GC.com.

I never load cache files from VP to the 710.
Also I never 'publish' logs from VP to GC.com, I use the 710 to load my log files to GC.com.
The only things I move between VP & 710 are tracks and routes.

Since I started this routine I have had no problems with VP.

I'll have to try moving attached pictures from 710 to VP and see what happens.

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April 1, 2011
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I think I tried the synchronize once to see what it does, but I tend to wipe my GPS and reload a new GPX file so I use "Send to GPS".

I tested it out a while ago to "My DocumentsVantagePoint" but never chased it further then that because one time it would appear to be a map file, and the next time it looked like a completely different file caused it, I'll go back and see if I can narrow it down further when I have some time.

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April 1, 2011
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I've been using VP since...well, the beginning, before I even got my first Triton. Never a crash. I've had a few Triton crashes, toasted a hard drive, but VP has never had a problem with several machines and OS's. But then I'm not the type that has tried to open every kind of file with it :blush: , and a few hundred custom maps run through it is not the way I operate... 😉

April 1, 2011
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I utilize the sync when I return from a cache trip but use the TO GPS after getting the pocket queries downloaded into VP. It's really a random thing seems like it will work for a while then crash out randomly. I'll make a backup of my work folders and try the things you suggested in an earlier post and will keep you updated when it does and if I can get it to regain consciousness LOL. BTW, I am not using any custom maps as I don't know how to do that yet unless you want to count trails as custom maps as I do keep about 6 trails that I have traveled for future reference of trips. Other than that all I have is the stock maps from the company and caches downloaded directly from within VP.

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