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Flags on my route.
Lots of flags on my route.
May 19, 2013
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Creating a route in VP is a pain, it's much easier to just drag the cursor in Google earth to make a track/trail/path/route or whatever you want to call it.

 

It would be best if we could just create a track in VP that the GPSr can use.

But we cannot, so finding another program to create a track/route is all we can do.

 

When in trouble or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout

May 19, 2013
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Kris said

phild31 said
I think this thread would be better on the Software Issues, it's not a hardware problem.

Agreed.

My mistake.

JG, if you read this, can you move thread to Software section?

 

Hi Phil,

Good Idea .. this topic is now in the Software Issues.

JG

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May 19, 2013
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phild31 said
OK, on Google Earth - use 'Add Path' and make your track/trail, then save it as a kml file.

With RouteConverter convert it to a Magellan Explorist (*log) file and import it as a track onto VP, then transfer it as a track to the GPSr.

 

I just downloaded RouteConverter and tried it, I added a path on Google Earth, saved it as a kml file, converted it to Magellan Explorist (*log) file, put it on VP and transered it to my 710.

 

It works, I end up with a track on the 710.

 

I put 3 more pictures on my photo bucket album, take a look.

 

 

To be techinical, It's not a track/trail you're creating in Google Earth, it's a Route Laugh.

 

Yes, but this I can do in VP too.

Then convert it in RouteConverter.

The most ideal should be a software so you could create a Track/Trail directly without have to convert it.

May 18, 2013
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OK, on Google Earth - use 'Add Path' and make your track/trail, then save it as a kml file.

With RouteConverter convert it to a Magellan Explorist (*log) file and import it as a track onto VP, then transfer it as a track to the GPSr.

 

I just downloaded RouteConverter and tried it, I added a path on Google Earth, saved it as a kml file, converted it to Magellan Explorist (*log) file, put it on VP and transered it to my 710.

 

It works, I end up with a track on the 710.

 

I put 3 more pictures on my photo bucket album, take a look.

When in trouble or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout

May 18, 2013
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phild31 said
One of the problems is the terminology used for 'Routes' and 'Tracks' by Magellan.

A 'Route' is created by making waypoints and linking them together to form a 'Route'.

The 'route' will consist of straight lines between waypoints.

When you make a 'Route' from another source it will transfer with the waypoints (all those flags) used to create the 'Route'.

A 'Track' is created by the GPSr by making a "breadcrumb" trail of where ever you go.

Just the trail will be on the GPSr, no waypoints.

So I create a track, or trail, on another source and transfer it to VP as a 'Track' , NOT a route.

The main problem with using routes with the Ex10s is following a 'Route', it will 'go to' the next waypoint, in a straight line, and won't let you leave the route to go to another waypoint or geocache not on the route.

When you do, it's a problem getting back on the route where you left it, it will start over and 'go to' the first waypoint of the route which may be miles away.

The function of following a route needs some serious reworking.

Because of that I almost never use 'Routes', I will create a 'Track' and load the track to VP and my 710 and just follow the track on the map.

Here's some examples I made of using tracks with VP and my 710;

http://www.phild31.com/VPtracks.html

 

These are screenshots of my 710.

When I 'go to' one of the tracks, that track will become a solid green line on the map;

 

http://s913.photobucket.com/us.....ibrary/710

 

Yes, Tracks or Trails is the way to go.

No flags that disturps the path.

But how do I create a track Before I go out in the terrain?

You can't do it in VP?

You use the program Terrain Navigator.

I there any free software.

Can you do it in Google Earth?

Now I have to first create a Rotu in VP, then convert it to a Track with a program I found - RouteConverter.

But it would be nice to create a Track directly.

Then export it to VP and then transfer it to the GPS.

 

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phild31 said
Go to this address, apparently I can't edit my last post.

http://www.phild31.com/VPtracks.html

Phil,

I fixed this message and the original message.

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May 18, 2013
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Go to this address, apparently I can't edit my last post.

http://www.phild31.com/VPtracks.html

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May 18, 2013
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One of the problems is the terminology used for 'Routes' and 'Tracks' by Magellan.

A 'Route' is created by making waypoints and linking them together to form a 'Route'.

The 'route' will consist of straight lines between waypoints.

When you make a 'Route' from another source it will transfer with the waypoints (all those flags) used to create the 'Route'.

A 'Track' is created by the GPSr by making a "breadcrumb" trail of where ever you go.

Just the trail will be on the GPSr, no waypoints.

So I create a track, or trail, on another source and transfer it to VP as a 'Track' , NOT a route.

The main problem with using routes with the Ex10s is following a 'Route', it will 'go to' the next waypoint, in a straight line, and won't let you leave the route to go to another waypoint or geocache not on the route.

When you do, it's a problem getting back on the route where you left it, it will start over and 'go to' the first waypoint of the route which may be miles away.

The function of following a route needs some serious reworking.

Because of that I almost never use 'Routes', I will create a 'Track' and load the track to VP and my 710 and just follow the track on the map.

Here's some examples I made of using tracks with VP and my 710;

http://www.phild31.com/VPtracks.html

 

These are screenshots of my 710.

When I 'go to' one of the tracks, that track will become a solid green line on the map;

 

http://s913.photobucket.com/us.....ibrary/710

When in trouble or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout

May 18, 2013
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Mike said
I have investigated about Routes. A Route consists of Waypoints and the Route itself is the line betwen those WP's. So you can't delete any WP's in a Route since it will change and alter the Route. The only way is to have an option on the GPS that will hidden the WP's. Is there such? I can't find any. Anyone who read this thread, how does your Routes display on the eXplorist x10 serie? It there any WP's shown on the Route?   If you have a Track who is differently build than WP's you will get no flags. So I have found a sotfware that can convert Routes into Tracks and the problem is solved.

Kris,

Technically a Route if you have walked it has a breadcrumb.  You can save the breadcrumb as a TRAIL.   Then you can load the TRAIL only and hence do not need a to display the WP's.

Mike

Well, a Route is something you create Before you go out and follow it.

You create it in a suitable program like Google rarth or in Magellans VantagePoint for example.

You create WP's here and there along your Route and they are all linked together to form the Route.

 

A Track is a recording of your movment and it contains of many, many points.

maybe it these Points you refer to "Breadcrumps"?

Otherwise I don't understand what you mean..

 

Kris

 

 

May 18, 2013
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I have investigated about Routes. A Route consists of Waypoints and the Route itself is the line betwen those WP's. So you can't delete any WP's in a Route since it will change and alter the Route. The only way is to have an option on the GPS that will hidden the WP's. Is there such? I can't find any. Anyone who read this thread, how does your Routes display on the eXplorist x10 serie? It there any WP's shown on the Route?   If you have a Track who is differently build than WP's you will get no flags. So I have found a sotfware that can convert Routes into Tracks and the problem is solved.

Kris,

Technically a Route if you have walked it has a breadcrumb.  You can save the breadcrumb as a TRAIL.   Then you can load the TRAIL only and hence do not need a to display the WP's.

Mike

May 18, 2013
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I have investigated about Routes.

A Route consists of Waypoints and the Route itself is the line betwen those WP's.

So you can't delete any WP's in a Route since it will change and alter the Route.

The only way is to have an option on the GPS that will hidden the WP's.

Is there such?

I can't find any.

Anyone who read this thread, how does your Routes display on the eXplorist x10 serie?

It there any WP's shown on the Route?

 

If you have a Track who is differently build than WP's you will get no flags.

So I have found a sotfware that can convert Routes into Tracks and the problem is solved.

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Hello.

 

I have created a route in VantagePoint and transferred it to my eXplorist 510.

There is a lots of annoying flags showing on the route.

I guess they were created when I created my route.

Is there any way to make them to not show on my route.

I think they're annoying.

On my Triton 500 they never showed up.

I have gone through all settings but i can't find any option to hide them.

See attached screendump.

Kris,

When you transferred your Triton data to your new 510 you must of transferred all your Waypoints and Routes.

The easiest way is to correct the oversight is to delete all your Waypoints from the GPS. (Assuming you have a copy of them in your VP.)  Then resynch VP to your GPS but uncheck the Waypoints that you do not want transferred to your GPS.

This assumes that you have in your original data just the Route and your data is not linked to the Waypoints which it should not be.

Mike

 

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Hello.

 

I have created a route in VantagePoint and transferred it to my eXplorist 510.

There is a lots of annoying flags showing on the route.

I guess they were created when I created my route.

Is there any way to make them to not show on my route.

I think they're annoying.

On my Triton 500 they never showed up.

I have gone through all settings but i can't find any option to hide them.

See attached screendump.

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