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Vantage Point v2.17 released
September 14, 2011
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Hello 🙂

I might be a stupid noob but where do you download Vantage Point ?

Thanks 🙂

EDIT = nevermind, found it : http://www.magellangps.com/VantagePoint 🙂

August 12, 2011
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I went last night, and indeed the Earth and Hybrid sources work again. There was some talk about them having been removed some months back, actually the day after I made the last map I needed for my area. I have all the maps I need for now, but it's good to know they're back.

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August 11, 2011
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You might wanna check to make sure you are indeed "starting" version 1.8. I have both versions installed and the icons for both are the same. I had to manually create an icon for the 1.8 since I already had 1.9 beta installed. I'm able to pull maps from almost all the sources except the one that I REALLY wanted with 1.8 (really was wanting the google terrain). If you're in the states then Google ones are really good for most anything I want. And after doing a couple with MOBAC I've overcome my fear of all those buttons. Really, all that's necessary with MOBAC is to move the map around and center where you want it....then right click n drag to select the area you want to make a map for. Then choose what zoom levels you're wanting (I just use 17,18, and 19...20 is just too fuzzy to see on the handheld and really 19 gives it away anyway, PLUS...many more selections and the thing gets HUGE. Most all of mine using those 3 zoom levels are around 500,000kb or less). Then give it a name then click add to selection then click on create atlas. That's it in a nutshell....VERY easy. Only secondary step you gotta do is drag the map over to the handheld unit MAP directory. Gotta do that with anything other than the newest vantagepoint (AWESOME BTW) updated version. I just like MOBAC since it's free. I just made a map last night of a nearby city last night so I know google hybrid is working. I like to just do city sat images since I like to get in and out quickly in an urban setting. Don't wanna stand around looking like a lurch too much LOL. Out in the wilderness the animals don't seem to mind lurching HA!

August 10, 2011
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jmebd wrote:

They are still available in version 1.8 of MOBAC

Quite a bit more work to learn & get them where you want em but free is free (for now that is)

There was a note a few months back about some map sources not being available any more - Google Earth and Google Hybrid were the ones I was using at the time. They showed up as "X"s in the grid boxes. Couldn't get the images to appear. And I was using 1.8 at the time.

Are they back up now ?

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August 10, 2011
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For myself anyway I don't want to learn how to create maps.
I just want to download maps to my 710.

Maps4me is nearly free and are great maps.
Digital Global on VP is dirt cheap and I don't need a third party program or two to use it to load very nice maps to my 710 that work perfectly the first time I tried it.

If Magellan puts in a better file system for Geocaches/waypoints VP can be a nearly perfect resource for using the explorist line of GPSr. :cheer:

As it is now, VP does everything better, especially the speed of transferring data to the GPSr.

Somebody should give the VP team a pat on the head!
Very good job on this update! :woohoo: :woohoo:

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August 10, 2011
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They are still available in version 1.8 of MOBAC

Quite a bit more work to learn & get them where you want em but free is free (for now that is)

August 9, 2011
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Nice ! Since Google Earth and Google Hybrid are no longer options on mobac, I might look into this ! Thanks Phil !

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August 9, 2011
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denisetdoris wrote:

Phil, with your 29 bucks, can you build a map with D-G imagery ?

It's so easy a Geico gecko could do it!

Did you click the link - Vantage Point test - to see the maps I made?
I've got screenshots of my 710 and VP.

It's a one year subscription, you can download 1 GB a day for the year.
The maps are limited to 500 MB each.
That's over 720 maps you can download for $29.

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August 9, 2011
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Assuming you have a subscription, this is about what you have to do in VP:

- Click "Download Imagery"
You get the choice to log in (if you're not already). You have to do that, and in the dialog box also choose your registered GPS.

- You get a suggested selection frame for the area, based on where VP is
Adjust the frame to what you like.

- Click "Green Arrow" on the frame to download.
In the resulting dialog, give the map a name and select detail level.

- Check that the calculated download is no more than 500M (the limit for each map)

Click OK and the download and building of the map starts.

After that you get the choice of where to save the map (Hard Drive, GPS or SD card).

That's it.

It's easy.... I like it.

BR
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August 9, 2011
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REALLY ?!? I'm guessing the subscription is mandatory then to do that. What's the procedure to build the map ? Very difficult ?

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August 9, 2011
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REALLY ?!? I'm guessing the subscription is mandatory then to do that. What's the procedure to build the map ? Very difficult ?

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August 9, 2011
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It builds a map...
I have tested this out and I got a nice (satellite) map of my surroundings... working really good on my 710.
I agree with Phil: This is good stuff !
And very easy to use.

BR
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August 9, 2011
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Phil, with your 29 bucks, can you build a map with D-G imagery ?

Denis Gionet, OGA Executive Member - Northern Ontario.

August 9, 2011
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I have been playing around with the Digital Global image maps on VP.
This is very nice! :cheer:
I've got a few screenshots and it's a pain to post more than 2 or 3, so go here - Vantage Point test to see what it looks like.

It's easy to do, on a program I already have (VP) and only costs $29 a year with unlimited downloads! 🙂 :cheer: :woohoo:

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August 7, 2011
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The Digital Global satellite imagery is real nice, it downloads a little bit slow but not bad at all.
The images look really nice on the 710, it impressed everyone who saw it at the geo-event I was at today.

I am now officially a VP booster! :woohoo:
I'll only complain about my lack of understanding of how to use it best now. :blush:

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August 7, 2011
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I've been playing with VP, it now loads PQs very fast and even better, it loads geocaches to the 710 as fast as anyone could want. :cheer:
It will load photos that are attached to a track, but I haven't figured out if I can have those attached photos show on the track with an icon or something.
Is there a way to get the attached photos to show on the track while it's displayed on the map?

This is what it gives me now, it's a list of photos attached to the track.
It displys the coordinates of each photo but doesn't show me on the track where it was taken.

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August 6, 2011
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wolf9545 wrote:

Thank you for your help. The main reason I stopped using VP was because it was slow. It is faster now but seems to be a bit slow on loading images. My caches total 7,800 and the images for those caches are 1,150 (I'm on Verizon Fios for internet so speed really isn't an issue). Still happy with this release and will now be using VP only.

Remember that VP has to go to the Internet, and download each of those images from every cache page that has one, find the url for the image, and fetch it. There's no getting around the delay for the images, it's inevitable. However the caches and waypoints download in the blink of the eye, so there's a huge improvement there.

@ bkb, thanks for letting me know, I was going to try this today to see if it was fixed !

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August 6, 2011
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Just noticed this version now displays the pictures that are attached to a saved track.

August 6, 2011
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Thank you for your help. The main reason I stopped using VP was because it was slow. It is faster now but seems to be a bit slow on loading images. My caches total 7,800 and the images for those caches are 1,150 (I'm on Verizon Fios for internet so speed really isn't an issue). Still happy with this release and will now be using VP only.

August 6, 2011
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Yeah, just click geocaches in my journal and delete them with the red X - top left of 'My Journal controls.
Right now I'm happy if VP just loads the PQs to my GPS in less than half an hour. I don't expect it to do anything else.
If you start with a blank page there's less chance of missing any data.

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August 6, 2011
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What is the easiest way to delete all the caches from VP; I'm guessing it is just click on geocaches under the "my journal" section of VP and hit the delete key? I know the easiest way to delete them from GC is to use the GC and choose "delete all".

The way I was looking at it is:
If VP sees that there is new info for a cache (updated logs of finds, changes of cache status, etc) then it would update that info on the cache.
Then when I transfer the info over to my GC it would update that info there too.
When I was talking about removing caches I was more talking about caches that go from the active status to the disabled status. VP would see that and remove them from my GC unit.

Not a big deal but I guess I'll just have to clear out my VP and GC unit, like you said, before I import the PQ's. Would be nice to have an option when I load caches (either from a file or from a PQ) to be able to first clear out what is currently loaded on VP and the GPSr unit.

August 5, 2011
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Yeah, they did a nice job in speeding it up.

I'm still trying to figure out how to manage the geocache file in VP, using PQs to load caches near my home is a pain. There's well over 1,000 within 20 miles. So I have 11 PQs for all of Massachusetts, set up by 'date placed' in a GSAK database and then sort them by distance, type, size or whatever in GSAK to load the 710.
Now to see if I can sort them that way in VP. I really don't want to have to load 9,000 to the GPSr. Or spend too much time fiddling with VP when I know I can load from GSAK in minutes.

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August 5, 2011
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btw - very fast to upload - 1300 caches and 140 waypoints = < 1 second ; add a minute for the 78 photos, plenty fast for my liking !

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August 5, 2011
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Here's the 3 things I wanted from VP ....


Cache Owner's name, and Attributes, as above, and ....

... IMAGES !!! Without the use of 3rd party software !

Thank you Magellan for listening !

Any other nice surprises in this update (other than the DigitalGlobe) ?

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August 5, 2011
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VP will not remove any caches that are not on a PQ, why would it?
Just delete all the caches and waypoints from VP and the GPSr and load the new PQs.

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August 5, 2011
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So far the new update seem really nice. I normally run a few PQ's that total to 7,000 caches; normally use GSAK because V.P. is really slow to load and send to GPS. If this new update is able to send caches to my explorist GC really fast then I will switch back to V.P.

Does anyone know if when I send new caches over to the explorist GC using V.P. does it erase the old ones, does it update any that are new and remove any that don't exist in the new list. Basically what I would do is have geocaching.com run some of my PQ's. Then I would tell V.P. to download them. Do I have to delete all my caches first from V.P. so that any caches that have been removed are also removed from V.P. or does it do automatically?
Does this make sense?

August 4, 2011
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it sure as heck downloads PQ's from groundspeak fast!
also loads them to the 710 super fast, a 1000 cache PQ, I like it!
looks like some filtering options for caches in the journal (may have been there before)..have not poked around much in there yet.

'bug

August 4, 2011
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Well, it works now, I'm downloading a map to test it out.
When I loaded the update it gave me no link to subscribe.
5 hours ago it still didn't work.

Now it's up and running, I subscribed and I'm now a happy camper. 🙂

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August 4, 2011
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I had no problem with subscribing to or using the Digital Globe data.

Communicating with the GPS is significantly faster in this version, particularly the Sync function. Another improvement is that the unreadable map annotations have gone away.

My first impression is that the new version is a major improvement.

August 4, 2011
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I hope they get their act together soon, I definitely want this .

The streaming images on VP are not bad;

My camper site in N.H., north up;

Looking east to Mount Washington;

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Yeah, it looks very interesting, I'm not really interested in making my own satellite images so this seems like something I could really use.

Except when I tried to subscribe to the Digital Globe on Magellan.com it just told me my 710 is expired! What the heck does that mean?
I can't find any way to buy a subscription.

What the h*** is wrong with these morons at Magellan?? :angry:

Every time they come out with something new that looks pretty good it can't be accessed!
I suppose it will be like all the other stuff, available a few weeks after they ask me if I want it!!!:X :ohmy: :angry:

I'm really getting sick and tired of this crap!

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August 4, 2011
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Digital Globe imagery downloads...interesting!


August 4, 2011
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New VP is out 🙂

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