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August 1, 2011
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You can view the exported maps from NG State series on eXplorist 710:
(1) Create a Topoquad RMP file from National Geographic TOPO! State series exported map.jpg
NOTE: the RMP files will fit very well when using the Custom grid and Snap to Grid features.
(2) Convert Topoquad.rmp for use on Magellan eXplorist 710
Software needed;
(1) National Geographic TOPO! State Series
(2) Magellan Triton Raster Map maker by Mikhail Sharonov from http://www.msh-tools.com
download TritonRMP.zip (Thank you, Mikhail)
(3) RMP Fix for RMPcreator & Magic Maps by Sockeye. Application "RMP Tools"
download from http://maps4me.net/tools/RMP_Tools.zip (Thank you, Sockeye)
(4) Your photo editor or download Paint.NET from http://getpaint.net/index.html
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Open TOPO!
Start with new map>GO.
Choose a state, zoom to your area, at least level 3 of 5
View Menu> Grid to get popup "TOPO! Grid Wizard"
*NOTE: View>Grid is a toggle, turns grid on/off
1. Choose a grid type and interval.
Select Lat / lon grid lines spaced every 450 seconds (this will space grid lines 7.5 minutes apart)
NOTE:This is the Standard size for USGS 7.5 minute series quadrangle maps.
2. Specify the map level that should display this grid.
Select All map levels
3. Pick a color for the grid lines
(I picked Blue Solid) pick your preference.
Finish
View Menu>Preferences
Units> Coordinates
Select Degrees and Decimal Minutes and NAD83/WG84
Printing / Exporting
Marginalia> clear all selections
Notes and Photos> clear all selections
Magnification>Select Print maps using the suggested magnification
Additional Settings>Select Snap Selection To Grid
Page Orientation Select Portrait
Select OK
File Menu> Export Map to Disk
a red rectangle with an X through it will appear
adjust this rectangle to cover a 7.5 X 7.5 grid then move the rectangle to the area you want to export
Notate coordinates of each corner
*NOTE: because of Snap to Grid Selection, minutes will be one of : 00.0, 07.5, 15.0, 22.5, 30.0, 37.5, 45.0, 52.5
* do not notate anything other than one of these.
you can revue "Options" at this time
Zoom to maximum
Save Map as type JPEG best> name your map> Save
*NOTE: Save several different adjacent maps then process them separately after exiting TOPO.
Exit TOPO!

Open Paint NET
Menu File> Open (open your saved map file)
View Menu> Actual Size
Scroll to top of map
Tools> Rectangle Select
Select from top of map to margin at bottom of map.
*NOTE: margin is 88 pixels high.
Menu Image> Crop to Selection
Menu Save
Exit Paint NET
*NOTE: Your map should not have any margins now.

Open RMP maker
Reference Format
select 00 Deg, 00,0000 Min
File Menu> Import Image (s)
select your image
Scroll to NW corner
Tab 1
enter coordinates
point to corner> double click left mouse button
Tab 2
Scroll to SW corner
enter coordinates
point to corner> double click left mouse button
Tab 3
Scroll to SE corner
enter coordinates
point to corner> double click left mouse button
Tab 4
Scroll to NE corner
enter coordinates
point to corner> double click left mouse button
Select Calibrate
Select Create RMP
enter File Name
Save
Exit RMP maker

Open RMP Tools
Provider
Enter your preference
*NOTE: I entered TOPO
Map Group
Enter your preference
*NOTE: I use USGS 7.5 Minute Quadrangle Names.
Select Fix RMP maps
Fix the rmp files you have created for this Provider and Group
Exit RMP Tools

DONE!
I usually look at the new rmp files in Vantage Point first.
Open Vantage Point
MAPS select + (Add Maps)
select the rmp files you have created.
You can view them by adjusting zoom.
*NOTE: I have not had any failures yet.
I delete them before Exiting Vantage Point.
Exit VP

If all was well:
Connect your eXplorist 710 to your computer.
Copy the rmp files to the MAP folder on your eXplorist 710 SD card.
Disconnect your eXplorist 710 from the computer.
When the explorist has booted up.
View Maps
Select Image Maps
Scroll to TOPO (if that was the provider you entered)
Your Map Group will be displayed under the provider.

Power OFF your eXplorer.

At this point you can use VP to manage the maps on your eXplorist 710.
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April 12, 2011
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Yay, I know what the little walking guy is! It nearly started a fight...

Me-"Look, you're in hiking mode."
Her-"No, I'm in vehicle mode!"
Me-"See the little guy?"
Her-"See the little Car?..." :angry:
Me- :huh:

(Sorry to be off topic, I'm commenting on the beginning of this thread)

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Thanks Morel. I figured it had to be an issue with the source data. I see TerraServer listed in the drop-down of V 1.8, so I assume it is loaded with that version of the app. I'll go ahead and try it.

April 12, 2011
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This should explain the problem>>>

https://www.exploristforum.com/.....38;id=2320

April 12, 2011
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Morel wrote:

It's in the "Map source" drop-down list if you are running a recent version of Mobile Atlas Creator (1.8)

I downloaded version 1.9 plain beta 2, Program Revision 1728, which did not haVve TerraServer. I just downloaded V 1.8 and see it now. I am going to give it a try...

April 11, 2011
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It is my understanding that Magellan wanted the Nat Geo apps to work with the new units, however, it doesn work because of the new Serial Number format and Nat Geo doesn't want to update the software to work...


 

 

 

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It's in the "Map source" drop-down list if you are running a recent version of Mobile Atlas Creator (1.8)

April 11, 2011
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Morel wrote:

Select Terraserver USA maps for the download option

Sorry I cannot figure out how to select Terraserver USA.

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Select Terraserver USA maps for the download option

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Caotix wrote:

phild31 wrote:

Caotix wrote:

Why don't you just use MOBAC and select Terraserver-USA-Map ?
I did it for Death Valley and got great USGS-Topo-Maps for my Triton B)

After buying the National Geographic maps they want to use them on the 710.
The Nat Geo maps are really beautiful!
Myself, I'm happy with the Magellan topos & the Maps4me topos, I haven't tried making any maps yet but will soon for satellite images.

I have National Geographic maps myself :side:, it was easier and better to create USGS maps with MOBAC. ๐Ÿ˜‰
There are to many maps around lately ๐Ÿ˜‰ but mostly I use Sockeye's maps or create some with Mobac. have you tried to lay MOBAC Sattelite maps over the USA.imi? :woohoo:

I am new to MOBAC. Can you explain how to use USGS maps as source maps in the program. All I see are Open Street Maps and a few others available. I am sure this simple, but I cannot figure it out.

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I first powered up the unit 2 minutes before the night mode. Oh, nice looking map!... What the F...! Everything is BLACK???

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Jim S wrote:

BTW, did anyone else freak when they first encountered the Night mode automatically kicking in?

When you said that I was just thinking I was out last night and never saw it go into night mode, I even checked and it is set to auto.

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I received my 710 a couple days ago after exchanging a T2000. Not being able to load the NG State Series was a huge disappointment to me too. In retrospect I may have hung on to the Triton even though I love the new 710.

I understand State Series maps can be georeferenced, but that will be a static image with distortion if too large, correct? The beauty of the Tritons was having dynamic scaling where the map automatically shifted from the 1:100000 scale map to the 1:24000 map as you zoomed in. I also had a map covering hundreds of square miles that seemed accurate over the whole area.

Hey Miniwhip, glad to see you here. You've done a great job on the Triton Forum and I'm sure this will be more of the same.

BTW, did anyone else freak when they first encountered the Night mode automatically kicking in?

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phild31 wrote:

Hey, was that a complaint about too many maps being available? :woohoo:

There can't be enough :laugh: you just have to know where and how you get those you need. ๐Ÿ˜‰

March 14, 2011
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The area around where I live & use a topo (New England, USA) is heavily wooded but I'm going to make some satellite overlays for where I hunt in Colorado and Idaho.
They will come in real handy for the area we hunt.

Hey, was that a complaint about too many maps being available? :woohoo:

I've always thought that too much is never enough! :side:

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The USGS with MOBAC would probably be the best option depending on the area needed. However, the particular area I use a topo map most has a bad offset/alignment of the tiles on Terraserver. It is correctly aligned with the NG Topo, plus I have the option to correct alignment by doing it myself. The area is also heavily wooded and the satellite overlay is not much help. Although the USA/sat overlay view on the X10 is excellent for more open areas.

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phild31 wrote:

Caotix wrote:

Why don't you just use MOBAC and select Terraserver-USA-Map ?
I did it for Death Valley and got great USGS-Topo-Maps for my Triton B)

After buying the National Geographic maps they want to use them on the 710.
The Nat Geo maps are really beautiful!
Myself, I'm happy with the Magellan topos & the Maps4me topos, I haven't tried making any maps yet but will soon for satellite images.

I have National Geographic maps myself :side:, it was easier and better to create USGS maps with MOBAC. ๐Ÿ˜‰
There are to many maps around lately ๐Ÿ˜‰ but mostly I use Sockeye's maps or create some with Mobac. have you tried to lay MOBAC Sattelite maps over the USA.imi? :woohoo:

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Caotix wrote:

Why don't you just use MOBAC and select Terraserver-USA-Map ?
I did it for Death Valley and got great USGS-Topo-Maps for my Triton B)

After buying the National Geographic maps they want to use them on the 710.
The Nat Geo maps are really beautiful!
Myself, I'm happy with the Magellan topos & the Maps4me topos, I haven't tried making any maps yet but will soon for satellite images.

When in trouble or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout

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Why don't you just use MOBAC and select Terraserver-USA-Map ?
I did it for Death Valley and got great USGS-Topo-Maps for my Triton B)

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Search Convert JPG to RMP Andreas Sander
It is at piccosaan.de The link is a direct download of the Java app. It does not install a program, just runs it when opened. The file is tritonrmp.jnlp 2KB

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Morel,

Where can I download Picco's RMP Creator and is this the one that run in Linux?

David


 

 

 

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Morel wrote:

RMP Creator (Picco) uses the coordinates at each corner of the image. You're set if you know those.

Got it, that's beautiful!

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RMP Creator (Picco) uses the coordinates at each corner of the image. You're set if you know those.

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Morel wrote:

You don't export it. You note the coordinates of the calibrated image corners in Mikhail's program and input them into RMP Creator. The path to the image remains the same for both programs. The image does not get warped with either program, therefore it will only be as accurate as the calibration points you add. Small areas less than 20 square miles are fairly accurate. Larger areas need to be warped or split into smaller sections and create individual maps.

Thanks Morel,

I think this makes sense. If I understand the concept correctly, I can go straight from Topo State Series (by exporting image) to RMP Creator since I can note the coordinates of different points using Topo State Series software. Do I have this right?

Cheers!
Corbin

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You don't export it. You note the coordinates of the calibrated image corners in Mikhail's program and input them into RMP Creator. The path to the image remains the same for both programs. The image does not get warped with either program, therefore it will only be as accurate as the calibration points you add. Small areas less than 20 square miles are fairly accurate. Larger areas need to be warped or split into smaller sections and create individual maps.

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Morel wrote:

This is one of my pdf downloaded superquads from TopoExplorer. Used paint shop pro photo to stitch the 4 images together that make up a superquad. Saved as a jpg, imported to Mikhails TritonRMP program to calibrate, then converted the JPG to RMP with Picco's RMP creator beta 11.

Thanks Morel,

I am attempting this today. How do you export a calibrated .jpg from Mikhails TritonRMP?

Corbin

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This is one of my pdf downloaded superquads from TopoExplorer. Used paint shop pro photo to stitch the 4 images together that make up a superquad. Saved as a jpg, imported to Mikhails TritonRMP program to calibrate, then converted the JPG to RMP with Picco's RMP creator beta 11.

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corbs2002 wrote:

Thanks Morel,

Maybe something like this might do the trick for state series? http://www.msh-tools.com/triton.html Any recommendations on software?

Corbin

UPDATE:

Actually, I see your recent post here: https://www.exploristforum.com/.....38;id=1685. Looks like this could be a good place to start.

Just checked and the triton raster map maker doesn't work for eXplorist 710. ๐Ÿ™

UPDATE:

To clarify, I am referring to the msh-tools triton raster map maker specifically.

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Morel wrote:

The Nat Geo maps are images that can be converted to rmp maps. Any Topo Explorer quads you own are available in pdf download for your use. Georeference and convert to rmp ๐Ÿ˜‰

Thanks Morel,

Maybe something like this might do the trick for state series? http://www.msh-tools.com/triton.html Any recommendations on software?

Corbin

UPDATE:

Actually, I see your recent post here: https://www.exploristforum.com/.....38;id=1685. Looks like this could be a good place to start.

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How does one 'Georeference' and convert to a 'rmp'?

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The Nat Geo maps are images that can be converted to rmp maps. Any Topo Explorer quads you own are available in pdf download for your use. Georeference and convert to rmp ๐Ÿ˜‰

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phild31 wrote:

Try the thread caching icons and Profiles

We were discussing the little walking guy and a few other subjects.

perfect, it makes sense now. A bit confusing that this little guy looks so similar to the hiking profile. :S

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corbs2002 wrote:

I have sent in my Triton 500 and received my 710 and I must say all the reviews have been dead on! It's amazing!!! A couple of questions though :unsure: :

[ul]---I see this little guy walking icon on the upper bar next to the satellite reception. I don't know what this is. I thought it was the currently selected profile (since it looks like hiking profile), but when I change the profile to vehicle profile, it doesn't change the picture of this icon. The only thing I could find in the user manual is that it is the "mode". Thoughts?

Try the thread caching icons and Profiles

We were discussing the little walking guy and a few other subjects.

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dwcarr1 wrote:

I was told that the NAT Geo Series of maps won't be available for the eX-Series of GPSrs. This is not Magellan's decision, but the guys at NAT Geo. However, I will tell you that there are going to be some really cool new maps features coming out in the near future for these units.

David

Thanks David! I suppose I can sell my Nat Geo Map Series? The only reason I purchased was because of the Triton :unsure: Looking forward to the new map features ๐Ÿ™‚

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I was told that the NAT Geo Series of maps won't be available for the eX-Series of GPSrs. This is not Magellan's decision, but the guys at NAT Geo. However, I will tell you that there are going to be some really cool new maps features coming out in the near future for these units.

David


 

 

 

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I have sent in my Triton 500 and received my 710 and I must say all the reviews have been dead on! It's amazing!!! A couple of questions though :unsure: :

[ul]---I see this little guy walking icon on the upper bar next to the satellite reception. I don't know what this is. I thought it was the currently selected profile (since it looks like hiking profile), but when I change the profile to vehicle profile, it doesn't change the picture of this icon. The only thing I could find in the user manual is that it is the "mode". Thoughts? [/ul]
[ul]---My main question: Are the Topo State Series maps compatible on this unit? Since this was my most admired feature of the Triton, it would be great if Magellan/National Geographic extended this feature to the eXplorist. Any Magellan beta testers out there know if Magellan have plans for this capability? [/ul]

This is probably just the start of my questions as get to know the 710 better ๐Ÿ™‚ Also, definitely looking forward to when I have the bicycle mount ๐Ÿ˜‰

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