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May 22, 2012
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I have now released the version (488) of MAPC2MAPC that produces RMP maps.

http://www.the-thorns.org.uk/mapping/

If you only want to use the program from a command line
(e.g mapc2mapcnet.exe c:mymapsabc.map -rmp) then there is no need to register. So it's free to create RMP files. Reprojection to Latitude/Longitude WGS84 is automatic so creation from, for example, a UTM file is just the one step.

If you want to use the GUI then you will need to register.

I have also uploaded - which I guess will appear soon in the 'Files' section - a RMP to KMZ convertor

May 22, 2012
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OK, here's a screenshot from my 710;

But on Vantage Point the background map that's activated effects the detail map.

It's easier to do this than post a bunch of images here, so go here for some screenshots of Vantage Point and my 710.
New maps of Spain test

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May 21, 2012
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It behaved perfectly, no trouble at all.
When I get the time, sometime tonight I'll try map of Spain.

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May 21, 2012
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That's great, thank you.

Does it behave as you would expect or are there any glitches?

Maps of more than about 100 tiles have a slightly different structure - so here's a big one to try (8mb). A 1:25000 map of Northern Spain.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/g4fgx0

May 21, 2012
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Here's some screenshots.
I have the world wide base map on both Vantage Point and the 710.
First in VP;
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Now on my 710;
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May 21, 2012
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All I'm waiting for is confirmation that the maps I create (like this : http://www.sendspace.com/file/9ih1go) work ( or help to fix then so that they do).

May 21, 2012
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jolly47roger wrote:

.... but they should also support the import of map data that is either open source or that the user clearly owns

My mission with MAPC2MAPC is to provide an interface between raster formats for different devices. To be able to import a calibrated map (or calibrate it yourself) and then create any of a number of different output formats. And I've developed some utilities for 'round tripping' such as taking a Birdseye JNX or a KMZ and making it into a format MOBAC will handle.
With the help of members of this forum, RMP files will soon join the family so if you can export a calibrated raster from ARCGIS then it will be on an Explorist in seconds.

Jolly47roger,

I'd be VERY interested in this capability. We have the airport I work at flown every other year for high resolution aerial photography and I'd love to get the finished image (delivered as an orthorectified JP2) into my 610 to test.

Brian

May 20, 2012
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Well..got some new "sources" from a friend and it actually points to an ArcGIS server somewhere....it's a .jar file. If you're really interested I could send it to you via email...PM me if you want the sources that I have (several)

May 20, 2012
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.... but they should also support the import of map data that is either open source or that the user clearly owns

My mission with MAPC2MAPC is to provide an interface between raster formats for different devices. To be able to import a calibrated map (or calibrate it yourself) and then create any of a number of different output formats. And I've developed some utilities for 'round tripping' such as taking a Birdseye JNX or a KMZ and making it into a format MOBAC will handle.
With the help of members of this forum, RMP files will soon join the family so if you can export a calibrated raster from ARCGIS then it will be on an Explorist in seconds.

May 20, 2012
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Jamie,

I'm intrigued by your comment about "adding an ArcGIS server for MOBAC". Can you provide more information? Are you pointing MOBAC at ArcGIS Online as a map data source?

ArcGIS is designed to feed higher-end GPS mapping and survey devices and they make their own software for these units called ArcPad. Powerful software and devices, but they are not designed for the kind of use we put something like an eXplorist 710 to. I'm currently testing a Trimble Juno and it's a great device that is optimized for the collection of GIS-based data, but my eXplorist 610 is a more 'fun' device with more integrated features.

I'd love to see the consumer GPS industry do two things - first, standardize on a raster and vector map format and second support the ESRI shapefile format.

The shapefile issue is an easy one to tackle. It is an open standard that is ubiquitous in the mapping industry and easy to program for. A shapefile can be either a point, a line or a polygon (analogous to a waypoint, a GPX track or a geofence polygon) and can carry a lot of 'intelligence'.

The raster and vector map formats are a bit trickier. Not because it's hard to do from a programming standpoint but because everybody is trying to protect their intellectual property (developing and maintaining basemaps is VERY expensive, and there are liability issues involved). I don't fault consumer GPS manufacturers for doing this, but they should also support the import of map data that is either open source or that the user clearly owns.

May 19, 2012
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EXCELLENT information Justmapit! Thanks!

I have seen the free ArcGIS program you mentioned but still, wow....LOTS of stuff in there and as you said...daunting and really don't know what the heck I'd do with it other than making a print-out map (or presentation map) for everyone to look at.

I've had another user on here contact me offered some great help with adding an ArcGIS server for MOBAC and I LOVE IT! The maps seem to be at least a couple years newer than anything google has on them. It would be really nice tho to be able to create those withing the ArcGIS software tho as it's pretty neat seeing layers of other data (flood plains and such around lakes...VERY useful for planting/planning caches) though. Oh well...can't have it all I suppose.

Overall I'm really satisfied with the maps that I've been able to create to date. The ONLY thing I'd like to be able to do is what the ole pro Sockeye does and be able to re-make vector maps from OpenStreetMap data that has updates that my friend and I have been inputting as of late. I've tried but it too is pretty confusing. There are several sites that have extracts of daily data even down to the state level (which is all I'm really interested in actually).

Thanks for taking the time for your feedback tho...I appreciate it! (and envy you for possessing a good amount of ArcGIS knowledge.

-Jamie

May 18, 2012
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jmebd, I'm a GIS program manager for a large airport and have been working in the industry for decades. ArcGIS is great software, and very powerful, and can be a bit daunting for a first time user. But I think for your real question ArcGIS really isn't the answer because there's not way to move a raster or vector data file out of ArcGIS and into a format a consumer-grade GPS like the x710 can directly import. There may be a way to run the data through a program like MOBAC, but I have not tried it.

If you are interested in 'playing' with ArcGIS you can get a license of ArcView under the 'ArgGIS for Home Use' program for $100/year. This sounds like a lot, but this price includes a healthy package of extensions (3D Analyst, Spatial Analyist, etc.) and free training and support. Not a bad deal at all for software that would normally run in excess of $10,000.

You might also want to try out ArcGIS Explorer for desktops. This is a free package that offers a surprising amount of functionality.

There is also the open source GIS package, QGIS. It gets a lot of very good reviews, is full featured and of course you can't beat the price.

And last, a neat way to share things like your GPX tracks is ArcGIS Online. ESRI, the developers of ArcGIS, is coming on very strong with ArcGIS Online and they see this service (which is free to individual users) as a core part of their future business strategy, so there's a lot of development resources being funneled into it.

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Oh, it's VERY neat indeed! I'd just like to be able to grab the imagery I'd like similar in fashion to the way MOBAC does I guess and utilize it that way. Outta be a way to do that with this thing cause I too agree that it is absolutely chock full of things that it does. Absolutely amazing and confusing at the same time...

April 14, 2012
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I use Arc for work, creating habitat maps and the likes. Problem with the software though is it does so much you could be using it for years and only scratch the surface. I've never used the streaming data services to access the aerial imagery! Instead I have to add data the manual way, and georeference it if it isn't already!

April 14, 2012
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Also...check this out...free ArcGIS viewer software that looks to be almost identical to our Vantagepoint software that we use!!! Hmm..wonder what's goin on there? LOL

April 14, 2012
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Anyone on here used ArcGIS desktop before? Wondering if I'd be able to create some good maps with it for the x710? Am able to get it connected to our university gis servers and view orthographic data fine just don't know what the heck to do with it to be able to make some image maps....

Feel free to PM me if you'd prefer...

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