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Workflow for spoiler-pics on new eXplorist devices
February 19, 2011
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S!G wrote:

If I run a usual 1,000 caches PQ throug SpoilerSync, there are about 70 - 80 MB of additional pictures.
Maybe, this is different in the US.

I don't have thousands on caches to my name but to date I have never seen a "Spoiler/Hint" picture like the one on the linked cache. This may be a local practice specific to some areas but I don't think it is a widespread or GC.com would have built the capability into the hint field.

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February 19, 2011
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I allways used Spoilersync with Spoiler2gpx. But that is somehow not the way with the eX.

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February 19, 2011
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Has anyone tried it to do like it is possible with the Tritons?

Downloading spoiler pics with Spoiler Sync
Building the pics into the Cache description with GSAK macro SpoilerSync
Transfering the Caches with >GSAK -> GPS -> Send Waypoints< to the eXplorist, including the spoiler pics. I don't have my eX yet, so I have to wait a nother few days until I can try it. 😉

February 18, 2011
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I hope, that the voting on the Feedback system on GC.com will do the job.

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February 18, 2011
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If we can get Jeremy over at Ground Speak to add the capability to place a picture in the hint field on GC.com, or at least allow us to use HTML in the hint field on the site so we can link our own pictures, stored remotely like in the descriptions - then we'll have something to go back to Magellan with and as you know, we have their ear. They want to give us what we're asking for, however, it has to fall within the reasonable capabilities of the devices and compatible with GC.com. As far as having the unit parse for a specific picture name, the problem I see with that is going to be getting others to always use the same name! Especially if they're NOT Magellan users. So, the first step is going to need to be at Ground Speak. If we can get them to take action, then I'm pretty sure we'll be able to get Magellan to follow suit!!!


 

 

 

February 18, 2011
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Interesting input, David. Thank you for that.
Would there be a parsing like "only load additional pictures with 'spoiler' in the name"?
I understand this thread not as any kind of complaining, but of searching for solutions.
In the german forum, I have several requests about "disappointment about not being able to ..."
If I run a usual 1,000 caches PQ throug SpoilerSync, there are about 70 - 80 MB of additional pictures.
Maybe, this is different in the US.
Only to have it clear: I'm asking about the true "Spoiler/Hint" pictures. Not the whole gallery of pictures.

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February 18, 2011
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This is a copy of something I posted some time ago:

Kim,

I hate to be the barrier of bad news, but I really wouldn’t be looking for Magellan to implement this into the GC and here is why. As I programmer I decided to look into this and I found a big problem. The GC “claims” to be able to handle something like 10,000 caches. Currently, I normally load between 1,000 to 1,500 caches so I used 1,000 as a trail number. After looking at a number of caches I cam up with an average of around 5.88 pictures per cache with an average size of around 100Kb. So, with a 1,000 caches loaded and 5.88 pictures per cache, that is 5880 pictures at 100kbs a piece coming up to 588 Meg pictures that would have to be transferred. If you look at your GCs memory you’ll see that it has a total memory of 1.8GB, 1.0GB of which is taken by the map and 13MB taken by applications leaving 699MB. So, if you were to transfer 588MB of pictures to the unit to would really be pushing it to its limits, which is greatly going to slow down a unit that is already receiving complaints about freezing up, and you would be spending a GOOD deal of time loading your GC before you went out! Personally, I believe that the cost of performance, time and memory is greater than the payoff of having the pictures in the field – although I too would love to have them!

David

If we're already complaining that VP is taking to long to load the pictures contained within the descriptions for the caches, we'd better be careful what we're asking for! Plus, if you're loading 3 to 4 thousand caches or more, then the software is having to parse everyone of them and do internet request from GC.com, which is already having some issues with their servers being over taxed... We can say this isn't our problem, but it will be when we're sitting and waiting and waiting and waiting for things to happen!!! Yes, I to would like to have ALL of the data from the website loaded into my GPS, but at what cost! You also need to think about the amount of memory it is using in the GPS.

David


 

 

 

February 18, 2011
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S!G wrote:

http://coord.info/GC1N9HN

Have a look at the pic: "Spoiler Final"

The problem is, that picture is posted in the gallery.
We need another way to post a spoiler/hint picture on the cache page that will be sent as a hint.

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February 18, 2011
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http://coord.info/GC1N9HN

Have a look at the pic: "Spoiler Final"

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February 18, 2011
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If a picture is posted in the 'hint' section of the cache it could be sent in GPX, I think.
Can you post a picture as a hint?

I don't think Magellan can do anything about what's not in a PQ.

I guess a suggestion to Groundspeak is in order.

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February 18, 2011
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Thanks for input. I'm aware, that the spoiler pics are not listet in the PQ. I'm not talking about the galery pictures. I'm talking about the pictures, some caches have as "additional hint". (For example the tree, the cache is next to)

So, if there is a need for the user to have this feature, we will have to let Magellan know, what we want. If nobody say, that we miss a special feature, how should they know?

If this is a issue from Groundspeak, please let them know, we want the link to the spoiler-pics in the gpx-file.
Maybe, someone could vote HERE

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February 18, 2011
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Only the pictures in the cache description will be transmitted in GPX from GC.com
Do you mean the gallery pictures?
They are not sent in GPX from GC.com
I don't think there is any way around it.

And I doubt if Groundspeak will change it, way too much data in PQs if every picture in every gallery is included.

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February 18, 2011
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As we all know, the eXplorist x10 / GC does a great job. With VP, we can transmit the full cache describtion to the device. There are pics shown in the listing, but how do we transmit the spoiler pics to the unit?
Does anybody know a workflow for this problem?

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