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July 11, 2012
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Thanks David - all good now. I think I know what not to do!

July 10, 2012
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pprass,

I would suggest that you contact the Jungleghost at Jungleghost.com. He should be able to help you.

Davd


 

 

 

July 10, 2012
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ShortcutHicksy wrote:

You never mentioned you were loading doggy files you created just prior to it stopping.

There were so many things going on - to begin with the batteries were not showing full charge in the GPSr (even though they were fully charged) so my immediate attention went to look for a power solution. I had loaded plenty of GSAK files before and thought nothing was wrong with this one, so I didn't think of it until Sorceress mentioned it.
And then I think the file was sitting in the SD card and when I originally removed the files - it was only from main memory.

July 10, 2012
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No tables in the description HTML. Don't know what is the error?

July 9, 2012
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pprass,

Can you check to see if any of the caches that you loaded had tables in the description HTML? There has been a high occurance on the GCs with lock up problems that were directly traceable to this.

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July 9, 2012
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Hi Peter,

You never mentioned you were loading doggy files you created just prior to it stopping. Iā€™m glad you could only get your hands on 3 units!!!!

Graham.
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July 9, 2012
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Update:
I think I found out what is causing my GPSr's to go into this loop.

I just tried to load into a friends 610 a GPX file that I created using GSAK (which I had also loaded into the 710 this morning)and it immediately went into the loop.

The file that I created in GSAK was a simple list of 11 "caches" using the Waypoint > Add function.

I also imported a list of 25 WPTs from VantagePoint.

So somehow, as Sorceress mentioned, I think I imported a corrupted file and now I have 3 GPSr's not working. I removed the files from the 610 and thankfully it now works. I then found that the 2 710's had a file hiding in the SD card, so I removed them and they now all work. However I still am not sure which file is corrupt - the GSAK file or the VP file?

I will experiment individually.

Gosh - that is one day wasted!

July 9, 2012
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Ok - I think I tried everything -
1. Are the batteries making good contact with the terminals? Yes- although I thought for a moment that it was the problem as one of the contacts was jammed hard up against itself. On releasing it it made no difference.
2. How many geocaches have you got loaded? None now
3. Available memory problems? I have removed all files including the UGDS file and the Images file which was only 120mb.
4. Flakey files? I have removed all the files, but what I haven't tried is to clear memory and start again.
5. Use the 240V power source to start up the GPSr? Yes - tried that with the USB cable pluged into the 240V adaptor.
6. Delete the Media/Images/geocaches file? Yep - did that and the UGDS file as well.

After trying all of that I still have the "Restarting device to improve performance - Please Wait..." message loop.

I was going to try and "Clear Memeory" as stated in 4. above, but I just realised that I have to have the GPSr working to get to that function :angry:

Reluctantly I think I will ask MiTAC to take them for service - reluctant, because last time I did that it was a disaster.

Thanks so much for your input.

July 9, 2012
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Ahh - ideas/information overload :woohoo:

Let me try and work on a few of them, but regarding the batteries, they are fully recharged and in any case I tried brand new Duracell Alkaline batteries as well.

I only had 445 caches loaded on both units and removed the UGS file, but haven't removed the images file.

I also loaded the 6.53 FW on one of them.

I'll be back!

July 9, 2012
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One other thing I just thought of, when I load a new set of geocaches and replace the set that was already in the 710 I always delete the Media/Images/geocaches file before I do anything else.

A couple of weeks ago I checked the file and left it there, then loaded 100 new caches to replace the 5,000 that were in it.
The Media/Images/geocaches file was then a little bigger.
Those image files were not deleted with the normal geocache files.

If that file gets too large it may cause some problems.

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July 9, 2012
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The one time my 710 wouldn't start, it kept saying replace batteries even after I did, I plugged it into a power source - not the computer but a power source for the usb cable - and it started up & indexed the database with no trouble.
I plugged it in with it shut off, then started it up normally with it already plugged into the power source.

I'm convinced there is a problem with the battery level software, it always says to replace batteries after a database change even though I always put new/recharged batteries in before I start.
Plus the only way my 710 shows good rechargeable batteries is when I have it set for alkaline.
When it's set for rechargeable it reports dead batteries and shuts down long before the batteries are actually dead.

This is another minor problem that was reported months ago.

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July 9, 2012
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I am a novice but I would guess that you are having either a available memory problem or a some flaky files.

The "Indexing Database" routine should not falter or stop short of 100%.

When in doubt, reload the latest firmware version.

Maybe this will help.

-S-

July 9, 2012
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It does sound like a low battery issue, are the batteries making good contact with the terminals. I have seen the battery charge icon change levels as you describe but it has caused no problems on my unit.

How many geocaches have you got loaded, someone reported having problems when approaching 10,000 caches loaded?

Graham.

July 9, 2012
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My 710's have been slowly developing a fault on start up and now won't start at all. One goes in a loop by getting to a screen saying "Restarting device to improve performance - please wait" and then starts again and then says "Restarting....." and so on.

The other one goes into the "Indexing Database" routine and freezes at 39%. Then after about 2 minutes it says "Please Replace Batteries" (even though they are freshly recharged batteries)and then just freezes until I pull the batteries out.

I have tried to start the units with and without batteries plugged into the laptop, and eventually I got the one that was doing the Indexing routine to fire up.
I then unplugged it from the laptop and started it up with the (freshly recharged)batteries and it immediately said low batteries, but it started! The odd thing is that the battery indicator was showing Red - low power, but then after a few moments it showed full power!

It is as though some part of the start up process is not correctly reading the power level.

I tried to do the same procedure with the other one - the one that goes into the "Restarting device to improve performance" routine - but no go!
It just doesn't get to that stage where the whole screen flickers for a split second and then brightens up - which is the indicator that I look for and then know that it will start up.

Anyone know of a way to jump start the unit?

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