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January 22, 2012
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phild31, thanks for clearing up these questions for me. I'm going to try a 5 & 10 second interval to see how that works out.

January 21, 2012
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I did not change the Default to that number but left it as is.
Don't know if it matters.
I think what he means by 'automatic' is that the settings stay that way until you change them.

The settings will stay the same no matter what the track settings are.
I always have my track set for 10 seconds.
I have not seen a big difference in accuracy between 1 - 5 - or 10 seconds but you should try a few settings to see what works best for you.

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January 21, 2012
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Caotix...this is great stuff because I need to measure accurate distance on long tracks and it seems (from what I read on this forum) that a 1 second time interval is most accurate.

I have three questions:

I have edited my Atlas.ini file on my x710 as you indicated, except for the BAT part.
I understand to put the "BAT_Length = 262144. Do I also change the ";Default 65536 (0x10000)" to that number as well?

I notice that you mention "the settings have been in automatic". Does this mean that the increased values will only work when the GPS track measurement sensor is set to automatic?

If the above is true...is there a way to increase the value for a timed measurement?

August 25, 2011
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That's great!
Now I can make an accurate track all day without having to worry about reaching the limit and having it roll-over the start of track.

Well done Caotix!

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August 25, 2011
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I just edited the Atlas.ini with Notepad and changed following Data:

; Default: 65536 (0x10000) - max UGDS BIN file size: 256Mb
BAT_Length = 65536

MaxWaypointsCount = 2000
MaxGeocachesCount = 10000
MaxTracksCount = 200
MaxTrackPointsCount = 10000
MaxRoutesCount = 200
MaxRoutePointsCount = 500

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BAT_Length = 262144

MaxWaypointsCount = 10000
MaxGeocachesCount = 10000
MaxTracksCount = 500
MaxTrackPointsCount = 50000
MaxRoutesCount = 500
MaxRoutePointsCount = 500

As you can see the number of waypoints is increased to 10.000 and the number of trackpoints to 50.000.
I use this setting now for several month and have no problems at all. The settings have been in automatic.

August 24, 2011
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That's whacked ! What point interval setting did you use ? And the modification, was it just editing the Atlas.ini with Notepad or whatever ? Please tell !

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August 24, 2011
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After I manipulated the Atlas.ini to get rid of the 2000 Waypoint barrier and others, I tracked my flight back from Seattle to Frankfurt Germany.
The result was a track with 8285KM (my eX710 fall down from my armrest just a few KM before touch down) and 34473 waypoints :ohmy: without interruption.

May 18, 2011
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you got it. to each his own. trying to get one setting for everybody doesn't work. you and i can't pile up the points.

May 17, 2011
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Yes, the best way to get an accurate track will depend on how fast you are moving.
When I'm making a track while 'still hunting' with a bow & arrow I move very slowly (sometimes over an hour to move 100 yards), so I will use 'distance' settings also.
When I'm hiking along a good trail and want accurate measurements I set it for a point every 5 seconds.

The 'auto' settings are good enough to guide you back to your starting point but that's all because it will cut corners off the track.

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May 17, 2011
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i'm glad my 310 has a choice. the time one seems to work best for most people but in my case it's different. i used the auto to put in a new logging road and a path from it to a lake. didn't work out the greatest, looks like i was trying to draw a triangle.
i like to travel in places that are really hard to get to even on foot (bigger brook trout), i found that using the distance (15m or 50ft) worked best for me. sometimes it may take me 30 minutes to go 100m (@ 100 yards), that's a lot of points in a short track using time.
if i ever do caching time will be my choice, but as it is distance works best.
hope that doesn't tick a lot of people of but to each is own.

May 4, 2011
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:laugh: Laugh omg, Phil that just made my day !!! Too funny !

On the serious side, they'll all be up in clear sky so reception shouldn't be an issue, as long as you don't get any lazy seagulls perching on the units !

😛 :laugh:

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May 4, 2011
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Phil, you’re the man!!! B)

Bloody fantastic mate, I’m suitably impressed. :woohoo:

Love the camera in the front, great job. :laugh:

Graham.
:silly: :woohoo:

May 4, 2011
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ShortcutHicksy wrote:

Phil,

You are doing a great job on your weight loss program. However from a scientific perspective and to get consistence and verifiable results I believe you need to design a GPS mounting platform.

May I suggest a length of timber to mount all the GPS’s on, in the same horizontal plane too allow clear line of sight to all available satellites and then attach it to the top of your head. You should consider the aerodynamics to avoid becoming airborne in a strong breeze:silly:

I would appreciate photos of you design and of course action shots.

Keep up the exercise. 🙁 🙁

Graham.
😛 😛

You are right Graham, but a wooden plank would be too low tech and may not be safe aerodynamically or for civilians (muggles) I pass by.
So after considerable thought here's what I came up with;

That's my GoPro camera on the front, for action photos.
I'm going to have to build up my neck muscles a bit! :silly:

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May 3, 2011
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Phil,

You are doing a great job on your weight loss program. However from a scientific perspective and to get consistence and verifiable results I believe you need to design a GPS mounting platform.

May I suggest a length of timber to mount all the GPS’s on, in the same horizontal plane too allow clear line of sight to all available satellites and then attach it to the top of your head. You should consider the aerodynamics to avoid becoming airborne in a strong breeze. :silly:

I would appreciate photos of you design and of course action shots.

Keep up the exercise. 🙁 🙁

Graham.
😛 😛

May 3, 2011
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Phil, you're the man!

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May 3, 2011
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If I tried to run it that would be my last test!

After doing 12 laps early this morning some of the joggers and walkers helped out.
I ended up testing all 4 GPSr covered & uncovered with 3 people carrying one around the track.
They had fun learning about gps & geocaching and it broke up the monotony of their daily workout. 🙂

Now they want me to measure the distance around the river basin, I'll do that with my bicycle and add that to my reports here. Laugh

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May 3, 2011
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Very interesting stuff Phil. Now run the course and see if there is any difference. Just kidding. Looks like you are getting a lot of exercise doing these tests.

May 3, 2011
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Update on my test!
I went back to do it again and got some different results. :ohmy:
After scratching my head for a while I realized that the wind caused my jacket to cover the GC and 710 some of the time yesterday. :blush:

So, after doing the test a few more times I could duplicate my mistake but more importantly I've got more valid results;

Today's test of the 710;

Superimposed on yesterday's;

I had similar results with the GC.
They both tracked while in a pocket or case but not as accurately as when they are uncovered.
Same with the Triton. The XL was way off while covered.

Go to my test report for the updated report - PHIL's TEST

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May 3, 2011
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Awesome test Phil. Now we have some hard facts to go on...
Thanks for your time and hard work.

David


 

 

 

May 2, 2011
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This, I call FACTS. Thanks 4 testing, Phil!

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