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Frustrating First Morning With A New 710
May 9, 2011
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phild31 wrote:

mea culpa, mea culpa, mea máxima culpa.

Oh, curse this golden tongue that it would mislead the innocent! :ohmy:

I only reported what was fact at the time :blush:
With my time machine in the shop I had to wait for trouble to show up in the conventional way. :whistle: :silly:

If I knew that after 4 days the upgraded firmware would develop Mad Cow Disease I would have started this thread sooner - https://www.exploristforum.com/.....38;id=2569

Phil Phil Phil

Now your telling me you did turn the unit on until day 4!!! :ohmy:

You wicked man. B)

Graham.
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May 9, 2011
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ShortcutHicksy wrote:

Michael,

I'm with you, it's all Phil's faults, with his glowing endorsement of the new firmware, talked me into upgrading. :angry:

Graham.
😛 😛

mea culpa, mea culpa, mea máxima culpa.

Oh, curse this golden tongue that it would mislead the innocent! :ohmy:

I only reported what was fact at the time :blush:
With my time machine in the shop I had to wait for trouble to show up in the conventional way. :whistle: :silly:

If I knew that after 4 days the upgraded firmware would develop Mad Cow Disease I would have started this thread sooner - https://www.exploristforum.com/.....38;id=2569

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May 9, 2011
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Of course it is possible to drop your GPS back to the old firmware!!!

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May 9, 2011
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michaeln wrote:

I really wish I had tried using this 710 before upgrading to the 4.83 firmware so I might know now if some of the problems I am seeing are the unit itself or if they are caused by the upgrade.

IIRC, the unit shipped from Amazon with firmware 2.something on it.

Michael,

I'm with you, it's all Phil's faults, with his glowing endorsement of the new firmware, talked me into upgrading. :angry:

Graham.
😛 😛

May 9, 2011
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I really wish I had tried using this 710 before upgrading to the 4.83 firmware so I might know now if some of the problems I am seeing are the unit itself or if they are caused by the upgrade.

IIRC, the unit shipped from Amazon with firmware 2.something on it.

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May 9, 2011
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I tried Course Up and this holds the map fixed as you would expect and the Current Location Icon just spins i.e. the opposite to Track Up (Current Location Icon steady and the map spins, take your pick).

Calibrating the compass fixes the spinning and as I had previously reported the Electronic Compass ability to remain in a calibrated state is marginal. In Australia we do not have WAAS (we have a different system to help with aeroplane landing navigation) and I believe that may contribute to the instability.

Graham.

PS I hope the new unit is better in this area but I wouldn’t hold your breath.

May 9, 2011
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I had it in power save mode for a while until I found that every single time it woke up from sleep the compass had to be recalibrated. I normally am walking on my cache hunts, yesterday I walked six miles through the hills of San Francisco.

People were staring at me when I'd stop walking and wave the silly thing around in figure 8s and then 50 yards later do it again. It probably looks pretty strange. :laugh:

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May 9, 2011
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Michael,

It's not just yours. The compass on my 610 was flipping circles today as well even though it said it was calibrated. Recalibrated and it worked fine. Likewise, I also had to calibrate mine quite often. On one cache that was almost a mile travel each way, I had to cal it 4 times. This was with fresh lithiums as well. Yep, frustrating and it didn't do it with the last firmware version. And no, not trying to get a new 610 in exchange. 🙂

The /hdd is the WinCE reference to the eXplorists internal memory versus flash disk.

Matt

May 9, 2011
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David, thanks so much. That would be terrific. I will PM you my contact info.

Michael

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May 9, 2011
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Michael,

How would you like to swap your 710 for a new one? I just got a note from Magellan and they would like to swap you so they can see what is going on with yours. If you're willing, please let me know and I'll give you the contact information so that you can work out the details with them.

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May 8, 2011
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michaeln wrote:

I installed GSAK version 7.7.4 B21, had it clear the Geocaches, Waypoints, Pictures and Notes before sending, and had it grab the images again from the internet, and afterwards the 710 now DOES display the images. They are still scaled way too big and the "img src =" stuff still shows next to the Description bar, but it's an improvment.

Not sure if the img src issue is GSAK's or Magellan's.

One of the problems we've been fighting with is that fact that the HTML in the descriptions is often very loosely coded HTML since it is added by the cache owners and there is often errors with the code and trying to trap all of the errors on a Windows Mobile/CE device is difficult. So like you said, it isn't a GSAK or Unit problem.

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May 8, 2011
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michaeln wrote:

Looking at the GSAK help, I do see that the grabbed images are in the database "GrabbedImages" folder, but they aren't showing up on the 710.

Michael,

Go to a cache that you know has a picture in the HTML of the description and see if it shows up, because most Geocaches don't have pictures in their descriptions. Also, if a Geocache has a table in the HTML of the description we know that, that is causing problems with these units, however, it has been reported to Magellan.
Also, I aplogize if I sounded negative in my last post, I didn't mean to and I'm glad you're part of the forum. Here is also a note. Every so often when you get ready to reload your GPS go into the images directory and delete all of the pictures associated with caches. For some reason all of these pictures aren't always getting erased when you clear the caches and the more pictures that get loaded into this directory the slower the unit will perform...

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May 8, 2011
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I installed GSAK version 7.7.4 B21, had it clear the Geocaches, Waypoints, Pictures and Notes before sending, and had it grab the images again from the internet, and afterwards the 710 now DOES display the images. They are still scaled way too big and the "img src =" stuff still shows next to the Description bar, but it's an improvment.

Not sure if the img src issue is GSAK's or Magellan's.

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May 8, 2011
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Interesting ... in both cases it shows the html code next to the DESCRIPTION tag.

Looks like GSAK and gc.com have some information trading to do.

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May 8, 2011
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michaeln wrote:

I looked inside the .gpx file in the 710 and found this:

<groundspeak:short_description html="True"><img src="HDDMediaImagesGeocachesgs1105080755391.jpg"
border="0" alt="Photobucket" /></groundspeak:short_description>

It has the path set to look for the "HDD" directory, but there isn't one on the 710. So, the link is broken and it displays the code instead of the image.

I think.

Oh, I see that the correct image is gs1105080934531.jpg, but the .gpx file says gs1105080755391.jpg. That would cause a broken link too!

I think there is a bug somewhere.

Hmmm, I think it may be in the changes GC.com made.
GSAK seems to be not transferring the html code properly.
Here's some screen shots of that cache when I loaded it straight to the 710;


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And here's some after I loaded it from GSAK;

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May 8, 2011
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Yes, I did.

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May 8, 2011
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michaeln wrote:

Indy wrote:

There is a bug in the implemented voltage-curves. The setting 'alkaline' matches much better for rechargeables.

Is this a documented bug that has been reported to Magellan?

I think it has been reported by the beta tester S1G.

May 8, 2011
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Indy wrote:

There is a bug in the implemented voltage-curves. The setting 'alkaline' matches much better for rechargeables.

Is this a documented bug that has been reported to Magellan?

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May 8, 2011
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phild31 wrote:

Yeah, when I forgot to change the setting to "rechargeables" and left it on "alkaline" the the battery bar started at 3/4 full. changed the setting and it went to full.

Rechargeables start at a slightly lower voltage than alkalines and lithiums are a little higher than alkalines.
That's why there are settings for each.

Folks you don't wanna listen.

There is a bug in the implemented voltage-curves. The setting 'alkaline' matches much better for rechargeables.

With setting 'rechargeables' you will run out of energy much earlier or the device is thinking so and will shut down.

Test it.

May 8, 2011
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I looked inside the .gpx file in the 710 and found this:

<groundspeak:short_description html="True"><img src="HDDMediaImagesGeocachesgs1105080755391.jpg"
border="0" alt="Photobucket" /></groundspeak:short_description>

It has the path set to look for the "HDD" directory, but there isn't one on the 710. So, the link is broken and it displays the code instead of the image.

I think.

Oh, I see that the correct image is gs1105080934531.jpg, but the .gpx file says gs1105080755391.jpg. That would cause a broken link too!

I think there is a bug somewhere.

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