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Reverse Route
Can you reverse a route?
June 19, 2013
9:29 pm
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phild31
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If you decide to keep the 710 don't bother asking the "techs" at the Magellan support, I don't think they have ever used a GPSr out in the world.

It seems they just read instructions someone else wrote for them.

 

Asking questions here on this forum is more productive for getting answers. 

 

 

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June 19, 2013
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Thanks phide31,  At least I don't feel so stupid not finding the solution. 

Today I called Magellan because I decided to get the 2nd unit replaced due to the missing cover-lock pin.  In addition to setting up a return I asked the tech about the reverse route issue.  He told me that it doesn't exist.  You cannot reverse a route on an explorist x10.  I'm with you that Magellan has messed this up.  The tech didn't understand that I might want to go backwards on a route WITHOUT EVER WALKING THE ROUTE.  He kept telling me to just use the backtrack.  You can't backtrack something that you never tracked in the first place.

The only solution to the reversing route problem is that you'll have to do it manually in Vantagepoint.  Not even Vantagepoint has an option of reversing the waypoints in a route.  You'll have to create 2 routes and name differently like "Route In" and "Route Out".

Personally I think that Magellan is in trouble.  I'm a computer developer and sorting records using a simple bubble-sort is about the easiest thing to do.  They must not have developers working for them but contract out to outside consultants.  They know how to do it because you can reverse a track.  A route would easier to reverse and put the option on the route menu.  It should be added to the next software update.

I'll probably have to decide whether to live with this issue to sell my brand new, unopened, 710 that i'll get in a couple of weeks on ebay, craigs list, etc. If anyone reads this and wants to make me an offer then PM me.  I might just have spend $100 more on a Garmin 650t and $150 on the US Topo series maps for it.  ouch.

June 18, 2013
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Unfortunately Magellan has totally screwed up the route function on the new Explorist series of GPSr.

Following a route, reversing a route, getting back on the route and accessing waypoint details are either not possible or very poorly designed.

 

I have never cared about following a multi waypoint route anyway, so it's not a big problem for me personally.

It's been 3 years now and they have done nothing at all to improve the route functions, I have given up hoping for a fix or reprogram.

Except for the routes functions you mentioned I have been very happy with my 710, but if using it as you describe while following a route is important I would suggest getting rid of it and getting the more expensive Montana 650t or any other unit not a Magellan Explorist.

 

 

 

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June 17, 2013
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I am not new to GPS's as a hiking tool.   I owned and still own many different GPS units have even owned a Magellan NAV-1000.  That cost me a fortune back in the day.  I bought my 710 for the only reason that I felt I got a free topo map with the unit instead of having to pay $150 more for the already more expensive Garmin Montana 650t.  Also I liked the smaller size. 

My last useful hiking GPS is an old Magellan Map330 which still works like a champ.  It goes on every hike, hunting, fishing, and geocaching outing.  I know it very well.  When I decided to upgrade I picked Magellan over the Garmin for the reasons above and because I've been so happing with even the old 330. 

Boy was I wrong.  The first unit shipped to me was defective because the power button would only work about 10% of the time.  2 week later and after the 2nd hike the cross pin on the battery cover twist lock fell out and so the cover wouldn't lock.  It's so small it was never found in the dirt.  I then took a heavy sewing needle, pushed it in the post tight, dremeled it down on the sides, and fixed it myself.  I'm worried that the edges are too rough and it will eventually wear out the lock.

All the above I can live with but the one function that really frustrates me is why can't the unit reverse a route.  This is extremely important.  I do not want to follow a track because it has lots of waypoints.  I sometimes climb from one canyon to another and use the GPS to know how far to my next waypoint.  Sometimes I start in one canyon and other times I start from the other end.  I want to know details on MY WAYPOINTS.  Is there something I'm missing?  It seems to me that you should be able to do this from the route menu.  Even the oldest Magellans and all the current Garmins from the cheapest to the most expensive can do this.

On my first hike I broke off the main route to detour to a lake.  From there I got back onto the main route again.  My old 330 would figure that as soon as I hit a waypoint it would resume the original route again.  I didn't find this so on the 710.

Am I missing how to do these last 2 things?  Thanks for your help.

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