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April 28, 2011
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S!G wrote:

Since opencaching.com is on since now, I'd like to see VP working with opencaching.com (or the real opencaching) gpx-files.
Since now, there are only about 100 Opencaching.com Caches in Germany, but the number is increasing rapidly.

What does the community think about this?

I just went back and tried to load an Opencaching GPX file in this newest release of VP and guess what! It works... So I guess Magellan fixed that part of VP...

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December 14, 2010
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Well David, I'm at a loss.
But not a loss for words.
I've had and used VP since day one and have had nothing but problems with it.
It has never been very user friendly, it's sloooow, the controls are clumsy in my opinion and it keeps crashing!

Over the time I have had it I've used it on 5 different computers, 4 versions of windows, tried everything I and anyone else could think of and it never works without problems. I don't mean just not loading GPX files, the stupid thing would crash every other time I turned it on.

Even the few times it actually worked it has always been very slow to load files to my GPSr.
I mean something like a half hour to load geocaches to my 710 when the exact same file (PQ) from GSAK loaded in seconds!

The maps and satellite images are pretty & nice but I have never been able to use it for more than a month without it locking up, crashing or just not opening!

As far as I'm concerned it's junk, if Magellan or anyone else fixes it I won't care.
I will not run anything called Vantage Point again, it's not worth the aggravation.

I've said that before and always keep trying it because it seems I'm the only person who hates it.

Let me put it this way;
If VP was the only way I could load Magellan GPSr I would never have bought any GPSr from Magellan.
Right now I own, and still use, 5 Magellan GPSr, Meridian Platinum, Explorist XL, Triton 2000, Explorist GC and Explorist 710.
I also have Maggie's Roadmate iPhone app and their vehicle iPhone mount.
I bought them all new, full price without the trade-in that Maggie never bothered to tell me about.

Tell the Magellan reps that this long time customer would be willing to buy a program that enhanced using their products but for me this free program is not worth having.

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December 14, 2010
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phild31 wrote:

dwcarr1 wrote:

phild31 wrote:

but I would like to be able to load GPX files to VP.

Phild - could you please explain this statement, because I load GPX files into VP all of the time, so before I can report an issue to Magellan I need to understand the problem.

Thx,
David

The only GPX files I can to load to VP that work are PQs from GC.com

How do you load GPX files to VP?
How can I load GPX files from GSAK to it?

Because the dam VP crashes every time I load anything not a PQ I no longer load anything else to it.
Of course I almost never use VP anyway, I still think it's a nearly useless, clumsy program that needs to be totally remade.
The only thing I like about VP is replaying tracks on it, so that's the only thing I use it for now.

Phild

I'm at a loss here because I have VP loaded on at least 4 different computers and I never have a problem with it and I find it to be a great tool.

As you've said, I download my PQs directly into VP from GC.com in order to load them onto my eX710 and GC. However, since the Tritons have an issue with HTML, I always download the GPX files to my desktop and load them into GSAK and then run a modified version of the Triton Macro, then dragging and dropping them in VP and then into VP and onto the Tritons. I know that you can load them directly to the Triton from GSAK now, however, since I've never had a problem with VP I just use it! I also download the PQs to my desktop and then load them into GSAK for editing and then Export them to a GPX file and drag and drop them right into VP and it has always worked.

No, I cannot load opencaching.com GPX files into VP, at least not without loading them into GSAK first and then exporting them and I also cannot export/save GPX files from VP and then load them into Magellan's POI editor for my Maestro, which I also use for Geocaching.

But as far as VP goes, yes I would REALLY, REALLY like to have the ability to edit the Geocache information like the older versions had. However, even with that said, it is a great tool. With having the newer base map, TOPO 3D, Accuterra and over 6,000sq miles of the High Desert of California loaded in RMP maps - VP gives me the ability to see the terrain and lay out routes that I would never find while out in the desert. Since I can see the terrain in 3D; similar to Google earth, but with my PQ loaded; being able to see the satellite imagery, I can clearly see trails that I would have never been able to see on the GPS while out in the field and it is fast and easy to input a route in VP and export to my GPSrs. There have been more times than I can count when we get into really harsh areas that my buddy, with his Garmin 62sx, will look at me and ask which way we’re going! To be honest, I’ve found this so helpful that when we’re going Jeep runs, much like the one we did last Friday, I take my Dell Mini with me with VP loaded on it with my maps and my PQs so that I can study the trails on the larger screen while in the Jeep, if needed, and I don’t need WIFI or a Cell Connect (which we often can’t get anyway). Now I know I’m only a rookie Geocacher, at least by the standard of some of the guys that I run with, but when we’re in the middle of no where and really need a better look at things around us – they’re always more than happy to take a look at VP! So, in my opinion it is a pretty cool tool for the price!

David

Added - this is the area we're going to this coming Friday and as you can see, with AccuTera and the Satellite RMPs, plus the new shadding, I get a pretty good idea of what we're getting into...


 

 

 

December 14, 2010
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dwcarr1 wrote:

phild31 wrote:

but I would like to be able to load GPX files to VP.

Phild - could you please explain this statement, because I load GPX files into VP all of the time, so before I can report an issue to Magellan I need to understand the problem.

Thx,
David

The only GPX files I can to load to VP that work are PQs from GC.com

How do you load GPX files to VP?
How can I load GPX files from GSAK to it?

Because the dam VP crashes every time I load anything not a PQ I no longer load anything else to it.
Of course I almost never use VP anyway, I still think it's a nearly useless, clumsy program that needs to be totally remade.
The only thing I like about VP is replaying tracks on it, so that's the only thing I use it for now.

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December 14, 2010
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dwcarr1 wrote:

Steffen,

A question - who holds (sets) the standard format for the GPX file?

David

(Edited - one of these I'm going to learn to proof read my messages for spelling before I send them!!!) :unsure:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G.....nge_Format

GPX, or GPS eXchange Format is an XML schema designed as a common GPS data format for software applications.

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December 14, 2010
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Steffen,

A question - who holds (sets) the standard format for the GPX file?

David

(Edited - one of these I'm going to learn to proof read my messages for spelling before I send them!!!) :unsure:


 

 

 

December 13, 2010
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The problem is, that a GPX file is not the same as a gpx file.
VP only knows, how to handle Geocaching.com GPX fils. If you try to load a GPX file from opencaching.com or f.e. opencaching.de, VP doesnt know, how to handle the file, because it slightly differes from the one, that was expected (geocaching.com).

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December 13, 2010
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phild31 wrote:

but I would like to be able to load GPX files to VP.

Phild - could you please explain this statement, because I load GPX files into VP all of the time, so before I can report an issue to Magellan I need to understand the problem.

Thx,
David


 

 

 

December 12, 2010
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VP doesn't like GPX neither from opencaching.com nor opencaching.de.
VP simply expects caches from Groundspeak. But I'm sure, it isn't that hard to make opencaching gpx files usable. Those gpx files are pretty similar to the groundspeak ones.

Maybe, if enough user wants to have this function enabled, Magellan is probably enabling this function.

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December 12, 2010
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S!G wrote:

Since opencaching.com is on since now, I'd like to see VP working with opencaching.com (or the real opencaching) gpx-files.
Since now, there are only about 100 Opencaching.com Caches in Germany, but the number is increasing rapidly.

What does the community think about this?

I don't care about opencaching.garmin :huh:
Or the 'real' opencaching.something/or/other :huh:
but I would like to be able to load GPX files to VP.

That must be what gave VP a heart attack the last time it crashed & burned on me, I tried to upload geocaches from my 710 to VP but the file in the 710 came from GSAK, not VP.

Just another in the long list of reasons not to use VP! :blink:
So far I have found only one reason to use VP and it's not worth the aggravation of dealing with VP's limitations. :angry:

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December 12, 2010
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S!G wrote:

The GPX files do not run with VP.

I thought Pocket Queries were GPX files?
How does VP handle them, convert them to a Magellan file?

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December 12, 2010
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S!G wrote:

The GPX files do not run with VP.
I'm still thinking about a cache, that can only be found with magellan. But I havn't figured out any feature, only Magellan units have.
Maybe anyone of the audiance has an idea?

How about needing a Maps4Me map on your GPSr to find a clue that's only available on that map?
Get Sockeye to misspell some street names or elevation data being just a bit off for a certain spot?
Say, maybe a clue spelled out on a custom satellite image?

Then again I usually want everybody to find my caches, I don't care what brand GPSr, PC, truck, walking stick or boots they use.

😛 (except for those Apple users, you know what they are like!) :silly:

Hey! Wait a minute, I'm an iPhone user!! :pinch:

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December 12, 2010
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randyandcindy wrote:

geocaching.com's own rules prohibit listing a cache that requires the purchase of a product.
That would mean brand specific GPSr's to find a cache are not allowed.

Yeah, that's what I thought also but check out this cache - GC2GJ34

I don't know, it looks a little commercial to me and should at least be rated 5 stars for needing special equipment to find.
But all that's required on the cache page is a 'beacon needed' attribute!

Why would you want to limit the number of people that can find your cache?
Unless you are selling the gear needed?

I've already voiced my concerns about this issue to Groundspeak and on the GC forums.

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December 12, 2010
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geocaching.com's own rules prohibit listing a cache that requires the purchase of a product.
That would mean brand specific GPSr's to find a cache are not allowed.

geocaching name: cindy&randy
I (Randy) am the guy, and therefore entitled to hold and control the TV remote and of course the GPSr.

December 8, 2010
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The GPX files do not run with VP.
I'm still thinking about a cache, that can only be found with magellan. But I havn't figured out any feature, only Magellan units have.
Maybe anyone of the audiance has an idea?

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December 8, 2010
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OH, I see it now. :blush:
I don't have an account with the Garmin site but I assume you can load GPX files from it, then load the GPX files to VP?

I haven't bothered with the 'real' opencaching in years so I don't remember how they are set up either.

Of course if Garmin is limiting their site to Garmin files, not GPX, it wouldn't be worth doing would it. Unless you use something like GSAK to convert files to GPX?

It might be fun to annoy the Garmin folks by getting some FTFs with a Magellan! 👿 😛

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December 8, 2010
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Opencaching.com

Not the "real" opencaching.us - site

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December 8, 2010
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What new Garmin site?

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December 7, 2010
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I'm talking about the new garmin site

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December 7, 2010
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Well, opencaching has been around here for a couple of years at least.

In all of New England, New York, New Jersey, Penn, Delaware, Maryland and D.C. there are 61 caches listed, total!

I'll just stick to geocaching.com

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