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February 16, 2012
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No battery bleed off issues with my 610.

February 16, 2012
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As mentioned, this seems to be a 610-only issue, maybe 510 as well ...

Denis Gionet, OGA Executive Member - Northern Ontario.

February 15, 2012
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My 710 is does not have this issue. 2 Weeks, several on/offs and everything looks fine.

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February 15, 2012
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David,

Count me in as all my 610's (5) have the battery drain problem.

Mary

February 15, 2012
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David,

Reading through this thread, it appears that the 710’s do not have ‘Battery Bleed Off’ when shut down and I include my 710 to that count. But many 610 users report the problem.

There may be a problem in the ‘Power Off’ routine in the 610s.

Graham.

PS The latest firmware has had no noticeable effect on the battery.

February 15, 2012
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dwcarr1 wrote:

Hello All,

I know that there was a thread a while back concerning the batteries on the eX10s being drained while the units were turned off. If you have experienced this please let me know, because this is something that has has come up again and I need any details I can gather about this.

Thanks,
David

dwcarr1 wrote:Ok guys, I just got off of the phone with Magallen and they're concerned about this and they're checking into it...

Sorry David, not directly pointed at you, but you started this thread 9 months ago. I assume not enough complaints and those having problems got their units replaced or should be. It looks like the 610 is having most of the problems. Magellan should have received and tested enough of their own bad units by now to figure out the problem.

February 15, 2012
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Ok guys, I just got off of the phone with Magallen and they're concerned about this and they're checking into it...


 

 

 

February 14, 2012
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Jaker, don't worry about it - I've got a hide like a rhinoceros, almost nothing offends me.
And I usually have to tone down my natural sarcasm to avoid apologizing for every other comment.

My unit also had a loose fit with the battery terminals, I bent them to make better contact the first day I had it.

But, my 710 does have a power drain while off. :ohmy:
I measured it and it's one half of a milliamp. :huh:
That would take 4,800 hours to drain my 2400 mAH Eneloop batteries. 😛
That's about 200 days.
Or about 28 weeks.
Or about 7 months.

I used my Explorist GC & triton 2000 for two weeks to test the 710 with it shut off, just in case there was something I wasn't seeing.
That was the only time my 710 has been shut off for more than two days since I got it.

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February 14, 2012
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phild31 wrote:

If mine and sondre's units are not the norm when shut down then something is very, very wrong in Magellan's brain trust and/or engineering department. 🙁

Think about it, unlike most other units my unit is different - it works perfectly!

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Phil, I did not mean to offend,
but, I did think about it and that was exactly the reason for my frustrated sarcasm in calling that behaviour the norm in the first place.
Maybe Magellan's brain trust are heavily invested in battery stocks. :laugh:
I noticed that my batteries fit quite loosely in the unit so I carefully bent the posts resulting in a tighter fit. This will take a while to see if there is any difference in the drain off. I am not sure if there could be a discharge with the terminals just barely making contact or not.

Jaker

February 14, 2012
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No problems with my 710 draining batteries. Several weeks with the same set with short periods of powered on (battery only). It spends a lot of time plugged and USB powered in the truck. The rechargeable Powerex 2700 has been treating me well. I leave the power setting on "Alkaline", even though I'm using NiMH rechargeables. The units with battery problems have got to have a power off problem.

February 14, 2012
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I don't use the barometer but the electronic compass is always on.
Don't see how the sensors could affect it when it's powered down anyway.

If mine and sondre's units are not the norm when shut down then something is very, very wrong in Magellan's brain trust and/or engineering department. 🙁

Think about it, unlike most other units my unit is different - it works perfectly! :silly:

As a retro-fit solution maybe they could install an on/off switch to the batteries.
Nothing high-tech, just a simple switch to disconnect the batteries from everything.

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February 14, 2012
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My 610 has the sensors on and discharge the batteries while turned off--so much so in fact that I modified my gps station to hold the charged enelopes until I want to go out..

February 13, 2012
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Hmmm. I have two 710s. They both behave well. Just one thing: Could this problem be related to the setting for "Sensors" ???
My units always have "Electronic compass" and "Barometer" Off.
I think I remember Phil wrote somewhere that he does not use the Barometer (?).
I remeber the first fw for triton 2000. It sure had a big "sensor problem". With the sensors turned on the unit ate batteries like .... and got pretty warm.

Sondre

February 13, 2012
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I have used rechargeable batteries for many years in my digital cameras and through trial and error I have found the best one to hold their charge over an extended time period are the Duracell NiMH precharged/rechargeables. Allthough these batteries do not last any longer than most other brands under continuous use, they certainly will not become depleted quickly just sitting there. After at least 3 months without recharging they are still very usable. However, if I put them, fully charged, in my 610, the unit will not even power up after 10 days of just sitting there powered off. My 610 is without doubt bleeding off the batteries while powered down and if my unit is broken then I submit that most of these units are broken because by the number of posts citing this behaviour that seems to be the norm.

Jaker

February 13, 2012
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Yes, David .. the new version of firmware do not solve the problem.

Mary

February 13, 2012
10:39 pm
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Sorry, I was unclear on what batteries I use in my 710.
I use Sanyo Eneloop rechargeables in the 710.
They will last about 4-5 hours of hard use and in my 710 they do not go dead while it's shut off.
I did test my 710 for the battery drain issue, I put freshly charged Eneloops in it and left it shut off on a shelf for two weeks.
When I powered up the 710 they were fine and I got 4-5 hours out of them, as usual.
Get good rechargeable batteries and take them out of the GPSr if you have a drainage problem.

I know that a lot of people have a drainage of their batteries while shut off problem, but it seems to me to be a defect in the individual units.
Send the dam things back to Magellan and demand a new unit!

And no, my 710 does not go through batteries faster with the new FW, it seems about the same.

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February 13, 2012
10:27 pm
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I absolutely know that this is indeed a problem and no, it doesn't matter what type of batteries are in the unit, because I too see it every time I grab my eX710 and head out, so no - it doesn't have anything to do with buying better batteries. Yes, this has been reported to Magellan, but I'm going to report it again. I do have a question for all of you - has your eX510, 610 or 710 been going through batteries faster since the newest firmware upgrade?

Thanks,
David


 

 

 

February 13, 2012
9:54 pm
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Hi all
I to have some battery drainage whit my 610.After a few days my battery monitor will indicate 50 to 70% of usage or drainage.So after realizing that the battery whore drained the GPS of. I hooked the unit to my computer via the usb cable,okay for that but i wish if Magellan come up whit some real solution.I have all the time to wait for Ha!And by the way the switch on or off this is a real battery eater.I Am far of B) the 16 hrs of usage they claim,but i can live whit that.

February 13, 2012
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phild31 wrote:

denisetdoris wrote:

I purposely bought a digital camera before Christmas that came with a rechargeable battery, for EXACTLY that reason. Plug it into the wall, and when you want it, you grab it. Period.

I went through 2 digital cameras with rechargeable batteries, the batteries lasted about six months and would not charge anymore.

The bottom line is get good batteries!

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No matter what batteries are in it, they go dead within a week. Lithiums, Energizers, whatever. There's a problem with the unit, that's clear. But the other part of the issue is, some people believe in being more green. I feel it's a waste of product and resources to throw out batteries. If I had a LiIon pack, if it died in 6 months, I'd be happy to toss it and buy a new one for 20 bucks. At least it wouldn't be 40 pairs of AA's being tossed. My last digital camera would go for 3 years on 2 lithiums, but the gps doesn't, and that's the problem. $20 for 4 aa's to go 2 or 3 weeks, just can't afford it.

Denis Gionet, OGA Executive Member - Northern Ontario.

February 13, 2012
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Same for me: My 710 does not drain the batteries when shut off.
I only use Sanyo Eneloop rechargeables (normal and XX) and they can stay in the unit for weeks without problems.
Your units must be defect.... 🙁

Br
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