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August 31, 2011
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While in Seattle a week ago, I took the chance to buy me a RAM-Mount for my eX710. Due to the experience the others had with the rollers damaging the eXX I thought about modifications.
For temporary use I shrinked some shrink hose around the rollers.
Therefore I had to remove the rollers first wchich wasn't a problem with a small screwdriver. A positiv sideeffect, when you don't cut the overlapping hose to short, but let it for just a tiny bit longer, you get rid of the noise the rollers produce 😛

For a permanent solution I am looking for something like a rubber roller for electric switches or probably some parts from an old printer :unsure:

July 12, 2011
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July 12, 2011
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By the way, I sent an e-mail to RAM about the rollers marking the GPSr.

Here's what I sent;

Sirs,
I have your mount for a Magellan Explorist 710 GPS. Product Number: RAM-HOL-MA14U
The rollers are damaging the side and back cover of the GPS receiver while inserting and removing it from the mount.
If the rollers were made from a softer material instead of hard plastic it may not cause this problem.
Otherwise the mount is excellent.
A picture of the damage is attached.
I have no concerns of infringement of any ideas, I just want a better product.

Thank you;
Philip Demers

And their response;

Thank you for this input and I will certainly pass this on to our design and engineering department for review.

Best Regards,

Aaron Hersey | Director of Sales and Marketing

National Products, Inc | RAM Mounting Systems

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July 12, 2011
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I think that would be the case even if it was straight.
A USB cable doesn't lend itself to a snap in mount very easily.
But Magellan makes a windshield mount for the Iphone that has a pivoting plug built into it to plug the phone into.
In other words the phone just snaps in.
They should have built something on those lines for the Explorists.
I'm hoping that if I keep trashing their mounts they will at least think about looking into designing a better one.

The Magellan windshield mount is nearly useless, you end up wrestling with it to get the unit on it and again to get it off.

But with the RAM mount you plug the cable in then insert the GPSr into the mount.
Takes 15 seconds instead of 5 like my old Triton but would be easier if the plug was straight.

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July 12, 2011
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I would have to agree with you about the cable angle being a pain. It makes it impossible to "snap" in the gps into a mount and have it connected to the power automatically.

July 11, 2011
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The slot on the back of the 510/610/710 is NOT perfectly good.
You can not put the unit on the Magellan mount with the cable plugged into it!
It's a real pain in the @$$ to use the Magellan mount in a vehicle.

For a bicycle mount the Magellan mount is fine though (no cable needed).
I did a report on it, with pictures, in the forum somewhere.
In fact I use the Maggie mount on my bicycle.

In my opinion the only really terrible design flaw of the 510/610/710 is the plug for the cable at an angle instead of being straight like the GC.
It's stupid and very annoying to use.

An example;

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July 11, 2011
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Thanks for posting this Phil you just saved me some money. I was just thinking about buying a mount for my bicycle and was looking at the Ram mounts. I don't know why Ram went with the rollers and completely ignored the perfectly good slot at the back of the unit for mounting. I wonder why Ram didn't use it? I think I will just make my own mount.

July 10, 2011
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The worst of the marking on the side & back cover of the unit is caused by the rollers when I'm inserting or removing the 710 from the mount.
Some thin Sorbothane inside the four corners of the mount will probably work for the corner markings.

I think I'll try some zag sheets on the back cover & side of the 710. If it sticks it just might work to protect the finish.

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July 10, 2011
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Phil, I picked up the same RAM mount for my bicycle and have been mostly satisfied. Although, the first ride definitely revealed my only annoyance - it rattled like crazy. Short term, I put some toolbox drawer liner where the x10 latch lines up and wrapped another piece around the back of the x10 where the RAM mount rollers hit. Went on a fairly hard ride today with plenty of bumps and jolts. With that slight mod, there was no rattling which should also translate into minimal wear with the exception of insertions and removal.

Long term, I think I'm going to apply a sheet of Sorbothane to the RAM mount. Not sure how that will hold up over time with removal and insertion but thought I'd share.

July 9, 2011
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After using the RAM mount for the 710 in my truck for almost 3 months I just noticed some wear marks on the 710.
I'm going to try a few things to remedy the problem, like mole skin on the mount at the wear points or something like that.

Here's a link to some pictures of the wear I'm getting on the sides & ends of my 710. LINK

I just thought I would mention this for other RAM mount users to be aware of it.

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May 15, 2011
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Yes, it's easy and quick (very quick) to calibrate.
I like it.

May 15, 2011
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Yeah, but if I just wave it around it calibrates.
Takes a few seconds, no calibration page, I just wave it.

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May 15, 2011
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Ever notice the compass will be out of calibration every time the unit wakes up from active suspend? Very annoying.

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May 15, 2011
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michaeln wrote:

I think the only way you could get the 16 hour battery life claimed in the specs is if you left the 710 turned off completely for 16 hours. 😉

:laugh:
No.... If you set it in active suspend mode (which is far from completely turned off), it runs for more than 30 hours on 2000mah Eneloops.
I use active suspend mode a lot to just track my movements, and am very happy about what I get out of a pair of Eneloops.

BR
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May 15, 2011
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I have always taken all manufacturer's battery usage claims as pure fantasy. :angry:
Or as a flat out lie when I'm in a bad mood. 👿

Oh yeah, if you take a few pictures it uses up the batteries a lot faster.
If you take videos it just kills them really fast!

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May 15, 2011
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I think the only way you could get the 16 hour battery life claimed in the specs is if you left the 710 turned off completely for 16 hours. 😉

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May 15, 2011
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michaeln wrote:

I can't imagine how bad it would be if I had the backlight up high and not timing out.

With Eneloops I get 1.5 to 2.5 hours max with it on bright and no timing out!
These things really do eat batteries!
So I shut the light off when I don't really need to read it. 😉

I've got a Hyperkin 10,000 mAh Portable Power Supply that runs the 710 for over 20 hours. It's about the size & weight of a pack of cigarettes.
I'll have to mount it on the handlebars and see how that works out. 🙂

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May 15, 2011
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phild31 wrote:

I have no problem reading it in sunlight on the bike. Do you have the backlight on?

I don't have the backlight up bright and I have the backlight timeout set pretty short because of the way this thing chews through batteries. Freshly charged Powerex 2700mAh cells are only getting me 3-4 hours even with stingy backlight usage, I can't imagine how bad it would be if I had the backlight up high and not timing out.

I decided to try some Maha Imedion 2400 Low Discharge Rate batteries (like Eneloops but higher capacity) to see if maybe these NiMHs are getting tired. I have had them several years and used them in lots of devices.

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May 15, 2011
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Yeah, if you're getting just the cradle it's cheaper, but if you need the whole thing it's more expensive.

Here's the RAM page.

RAM Mount Description:
RAM handlebar or rail mount for Magellan eXplorist 510, 610 and 710 GPS devices. The RAM handlebar mount will fit rails from 0.5" to 1.25" in diameter.

Material:
High strength composite & powder coated marine grade aluminum

Product Numbers:
RAM-HOL-MA14U
RAM-B-149ZU

Retail:
$43.01

Or you could get the Easy off Ram handlebar mount but it's only good for a handlebar.

RAM Mount Description:
RAM EZ-ON/OFF™ handlebar mount for Magellan eXplorist 510, 610 and 710 GPS devices. Designed to fit most common handlebar sizes, this compact and durable mount is ideally suited to the open road or trails. Uses common zip ties to attach to a variety of handlebar diameters. Made of high strength composite, it is light weight too. Adjustable to allow for the best viewing angle, this product is perfect for any cyclist and their compact electronic device.

Material:
High strength composite

Product Numbers:
RAM-HOL-MA14U
RAP-274-1U

Retail:
$22.37

Maggies mount works very good on my bicycle and I can leave the Ram mount in the truck.

I have no problem reading it in sunlight on the bike.
Do you have the backlight on?

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May 14, 2011
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phild31 wrote:

For a bicycle mount I would recommend the Magellan handlebar mount that I reviewed earlier, it's more compact for mounting on handlebars.

Magellan is pretty darn fond of that bicycle mount they sell. THIRTY BUCKS?

I already had a RAM setup for a Garmin GPSMap60csx I used to own, so I just ordered the RAM cradle for the 710. It's ten times the mount that Magellan thing is for 1/3 the price.

Doesn't matter that much though, since the 710 display is pretty much unreadable in bright sunlight unless you hold it at one particular angle, and on a bicycle mount it is almost never going to be at that angle.

When I used it on my bicycle this morning it was pretty much just useful as a place to stow the GPS during rides from GC to GC. I couldn't read it at all while cycling.

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