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Strobing maps
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September 15, 2013
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Thanks JG. Your help has been invaluable. 

September 15, 2013
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bobofrett said
I am the bearer of bad news.

Took the gps out today. Had two maps or three maps selected. Constant strobing Cry

 

Should i just send it back?

Bobo,

If you can return the unit for a refund.  Please do this? It is not as much that the unit is defective it is the fact that there is something wrong with the UK survey maps.

However, please seek the full refund.

If you receive a credit on the survey maps.  Then maybe I would suggest that you consider another map source, like http://www.map4me.net

Good Luck .. my apologies for us not being able to solve the problem

JG

 

 

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September 14, 2013
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I am the bearer of bad news.

Took the gps out today. Had two maps or three maps selected. Constant strobing Cry

 

Should i just send it back?

September 11, 2013
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Morning chaps,

I started pratting about with the deselecting and selecting.

Unchecking the summit map doesn't help sadly.

But it does seem the strobing has stopped. Although I started to panic when it started again when choosing which maps. I continued to de/select other maps and it stopped strobing.

It certainly seems to have stopped it.

 

I can't thank you guys enough for your help AND time.

I hope I don't have to come back regarding this problem.

Many thanks JG for all your advice and patience.

I'll let you know if it plays up over the next couple of days.

September 10, 2013
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bobofrett said
By jove! I think you've cracked it. I deselected a few of them and now it ain't strobing LaughLaughLaugh

 

There is no red x on any of the maps

 

So. What does this mean?

I travel a lot around the UK, so how do I deal with the maps if I enter an area that's got a deselected OS map?

 

Have I been sold a faulty microSd?

Bobo,

Since your files do not have any RED X's .. the serial number is matching the GPS.

Now as of bad files, my theory is that the files when all are selected create a problem between the RAM and Video RAM.

So if you move to another area .. you should deselect some of the unneeded files and engage only the ones that you need.

You have over 14 files and combined they are a problem.

Try one more test.  Deselect the Europe Summit map and then see if the strobe problem disappears.  This will remove a great deal of pressure on the RAM.  Now if you need these maps then deselect just the Basemap and see what happens.

Also I do not think that your were sold a faulty MicroSD.  Concentrate on the files and the SDRAM.

JG

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September 10, 2013
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bobo, just a thought that came to me while lurking on this thread;

I would suggest you first make sure each of the OS maps works, one at a time, to eliminate any possible bad map file.

Then see how many can be selected before the strobing starts again.

It may be a case of not being able to handle all the maps selected at once?

 

But if you deselect the maps of the areas you are not in & select only the maps of the area you are in it may work?

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September 10, 2013
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By jove! I think you've cracked it. I deselected a few of them and now it ain't strobing LaughLaughLaugh

 

There is no red x on any of the maps

 

So. What does this mean?

I travel a lot around the UK, so how do I deal with the maps if I enter an area that's got a deselected OS map?

 

Have I been sold a faulty microSd?

September 10, 2013
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bobofrett said
Cheers JG.

I'm at work now for a couple of hours so will check this when home.

 

I don't know how to uncheck/check individual maps??

 

If I go to maps on the gps main screen I only have three check boxes, one of these was image maps with the red x in it. That has since gone since i reinserted the microssd, I can see the os maps now but the strobing is still there.

 

If you can explain to me how to check/uncheck maps I can look at that when I get home.

 

The maps are stored in the ROOT of the sd card.

Bobo,

 

Please download the instruction manual from either our site http://www.jungleghost.com or the http://www.magellangps.com site.

To check or uncheck a file .. just highlight the detailed box with the name and press the enter key.

You should see more than one file to be checked.

JG

 

 

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September 10, 2013
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Cheers JG.

I'm at work now for a couple of hours so will check this when home.

 

I don't know how to uncheck/check individual maps??

 

If I go to maps on the gps main screen I only have three check boxes, one of these was image maps with the red x in it. That has since gone since i reinserted the microssd, I can see the os maps now but the strobing is still there.

 

If you can explain to me how to check/uncheck maps I can look at that when I get home.

 

The maps are stored in the ROOT of the sd card.

September 10, 2013
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bobofrett said
Firstly, thanks for all your help with this JG.

I bought the gps and the maps as a bundle.

The OS maps came on the micro sd card which was already in the GPS. I didn't have to enter any special code.

When I initially started using it they were strobing. I posted this problem elsewhere in the forums and you came to my aid.

I never had a red x on the image maps until today when I removed the sd card and transferred the maps onto the gps unit itself.

Confused I am

Bobo,

I am now starting to guess that the maps you have were home-made using a free piece of software called MOBAC.

The maps should have been made with MOBAC (MOBile Atlas Creator) 1.9 beta or earlier and put through an RMP filter to make them X10 compatible.

I am going to assume that one of the maps is a problem and ask you (after you placed the Micro Memory card) to go the Maps in the GPS and uncheck all but four maps and tell me if the strobing disappears.

Hopefully you will not also find that you have a rmp file with a RED X.

JG

 

 

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September 10, 2013
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Bobo,

We are getting closer.  From your recent message, we have determined that the maps MUST be used on the MicroSDHC card supplied.

So please go to the touch program and remove any reference to the rmp maps.

Next delete the UK survey maps from the GPS.

Now reinsert your Micro memory card and start the GPS.  Go into maps and activate all the .rmp maps on the external card and tell me if any of the maps have a RED X. They all should be GREEN.

Please also tell me if there are any other programs on this card besides the UK programs and if so whether they came with the card or a user placed the maps on the card after it was received.

Lastly tell me if the UK survey maps are in the root of the card of under a /MAP folder?

We are getting close.

JG

 

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September 10, 2013
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Firstly, thanks for all your help with this JG.

I bought the gps and the maps as a bundle.

The OS maps came on the micro sd card which was already in the GPS. I didn't have to enter any special code.

When I initially started using it they were strobing. I posted this problem elsewhere in the forums and you came to my aid.

I never had a red x on the image maps until today when I removed the sd card and transferred the maps onto the gps unit itself.

Confused I am

September 10, 2013
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Bobo,  There is the problem.  Any map which does not have a serial number embedded into it which matches the serial number of your GPS gets a "RED X" and will not work. 

Any maps which do have a matching serial number gets a "GREEN X" and will work.

This begs the question of which of your maps when you go into maps on your GPS and try to activate the MAPS GIVE YOU A RED X AND HOW MANY GIVE YOU A GREEN X.

You should check to see how may maps have Red X's.

Where did you get the maps?  Where they made for the Explorist X10? .. and most important of all did they come on a special MEMORY CARD which had a special serial number which made the maps work?

If so, you must insert that memory card with the maps into the SDHC slot on your X10.

Remember that if the maps came on a serial numbered memory card and it was not a microsdhc card that simply copying them to a micro card will not transfer the serial number.

Please tell us more about the maps...

JG

 

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September 10, 2013
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I've just done as suggested. I removed all the OS road maps. But it still does not allow me to tick the 'image maps' box on the gps. There is a red cross over it now.

September 10, 2013
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Bobo,

Too many maps .. please select four maps and change the touch.mdc accordingly.

For example take 3, 4, 14, 15 and make them 3, 4, 5 and 6 .. delete all other .rmp maps from GPS and see what happens.

My guest at this point is that the UK survey maps are eating up too much RAM in the GPS.

PLEASE BE CAREFUL NOT TO ACCIDENTALLY LOSE ANY MAPS WHEN YOU DO THIS STEP.

If i am correct .. you will have to trim the number of maps or consider that there is a corrupt map in the series.

If four maps work then try five map or in other words add one map at a time to discover the capabilities of the GPS and the creditability of the maps.

JG

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September 10, 2013
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The map file contains...

europe.imi

touch

wweu_bmr.mgi

europe.pi

then all the os.rmp files

and a europe.tpo file

September 10, 2013
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bobofrett said
So I followed the below advice but just added the os maps to the gps and amended the touch file to suit.

 

When switching the gps on all I had was basemap and the gps wouldn't allow me to tick the image maps box

 

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touch file looks like this...

[BASE]
0=WWEU_BMR.mgi

[PC]

[IMAGE]
0=Europe.imi
1=Europe.tpo
2=Europe.poi

3=OS 1-50.000 - Central England.rmp
4=OS 1-50.000 - Central Scotland.rmp
5=OS 1-50.000 - Eastern England.rmp
6=OS 1-50.000 - North East Scotland.rmp
7=OS 1-50.000 - North West Scotland.rmp
8=OS 1-50.000 - Northern England.rmp
9=OS 1-50.000 - Scottish Lowlands and Borders.rmp
10=OS 1-50.000 - South East England.rmp
11=OS 1-50.000 - South West England.rmp
12=OS 1-50.000 - Wales.rmp
13=OS GB Map - Overview.rmp
14=OS Road Map - Central England.rmp
15=OS Road Map - Central Scotland.rmp
16=OS Road Map - Eastern England.rmp
17=OS Road Map - North East Scotland.rmp
18=OS Road Map - North West Scotland.rmp
19=OS Road Map - Northern England.rmp
20=OS Road Map - Scottish Lowlands and Borders.rmp
21=OS Road Map - South East England.rmp
22=OS Road Map - South West England.rmp
23=OS Road Map - Wales.rmp

 

September 10, 2013
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So I followed the below advice but just added the os maps to the gps and amended the touch file to suit.

 

When switching the gps on all I had was basemap and the gps wouldn't allow me to tick the image maps box

 

Won't let me upload screenshots

September 10, 2013
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Cheers JG. All the maps stored on the memory card are .rmp

I'll proceed with your advice. It appears I have enough storage space on the gps to add these.

September 10, 2013
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Bobo,

Something does not appear correct.   You must do some experimentation.  First question is are all the UK maps ending in .imi, .tpo or are some .rmp, etc.

Here are some experiments to try.

Place all the UK survey maps on the GPS and not on the SD card and add them to the touch code.  If you are out of room move your Summit maps to the SD card (remember to make a copy of all maps to your computer, just in case.) 

Always keep the .mgi basemap in the GPS.  Now modify your touch code to be 0 through 2, 3, 4 to be only UK survey maps and test the GPS for strobing.

Remove the memory card which now contains only the Summit and City maps.

.. see the results.

It is very difficult to see the problem as I do not know the extensions of your UK survey maps.  I also want to ascertain that the UK maps are the problem and not the GPS.

JG

 

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September 10, 2013
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Update, removed the touch file from sd card. Maps are unhappy about this and continue to strobe Frown

September 9, 2013
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Hi JG,

please excuse my confusion.

When I initially posted about this problem a few months ago you said the following...

Bobo,

We have seen this problem before. It is the UK ordnance survey maps.

Just for the heck of your may have to inform the 710 of the existence of these maps.

First of all, the maps have to be in the ROOT of the MicroSDHC card.  Do not place them in a subfolder named /map or /map_data.

Next you will see in the /map folder of the 710 /map file a file named touch.mdc

Transfer a copy of this file to the ROOT of the Micro memory card.

Now add the file name of the UK ordinance software to the [IMAGE] as file names

[BASE]
0=WWEU_BM.mgi

[PC]

[IMAGE]
0=Europe.imi
1=Europe.tpo
2=
3=

etc….

See if this stabilizes the maps.

JG

So I followed the advice above and it worked fine until last week. I haven't made any changes bar adding more waypoints and caches.

 
When I look at my sd card my maps are in the ROOT,there is a touch file there too, a unit.xml and a USBTrans folder.
 
When I look at the gps there is a touch file in the MAP folder and europe.imi europe.tpo and europe.poi and wweu_bmr.mgi file.
 
I'll delete the touch on my SD card and see if it restabilises.
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Bobo,

Let me make sure that you and I are on the same frequency.

The touch file is only to ONLY be located in the GPS /Map folder.  It is also to ONLY reference those files which are located in the GPS Map Folder.

If you have map files on the MicroSDHC they should always be in the root of the memory card and NO TOUCH FILE should be used.

If the location of your files in the memory card are being stored in a /MAP folder you created on the memory card .. please move them to the ROOT of the card .. and again NO TOUCH FILE.

The strobe effect is being created by the storage of your maps.

JG

 

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Hi Bobo,

Something must have changed.  For example:

1) Did you do any upgrades to either the firmware or maps?  

2) Did you add anything to the MicroSDHC card (i.e. new maps, etc.).  Did you make any changes referencing that data can now be stored on the MicroSDHC card directly?

3) Did you add any geocaches, waypoints, tracks, routes?

Please ponder what changes could have been made but something changed.

JG

Hi JG,

1) No updates done

2) I haven't done anything like that-no idea. I did notice that while I have all my external sd maps now on that touch.mdc referenced 1-14. Only 1-3 are referenced on the gps unit in the MAP folder.

3) Yes, all the time. Have deleted all of those off to see if it reverts to being a good gps.

 

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Hi Bobo,

Something must have changed.  For example:

1) Did you do any upgrades to either the firmware or maps?  

2) Did you add anything to the MicroSDHC card (i.e. new maps, etc.).  Did you make any changes referencing that data can now be stored on the MicroSDHC card directly?

3) Did you add any geocaches, waypoints, tracks, routes?

Please ponder what changes could have been made but something changed.

JG

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Hi there, I bought a 710 a few months ago and Jungle Ghost helped me solve the strobing of my ordnance survey maps.

 

As of yesterday the unit has started strobing again. I don't think I have changed anything on the gps and I checked the touch.mdc file to ensure it still held the same info, it does.

 

Can anyone help.

It's been fine since my last post

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